Talk:Helena, Montana

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Hyacinth grew up in Helena.

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[edit] Removed and added

I removed a link: (http://www.weelempowers.org/) from the external links, as it contains no relevant information about Helena.

I added Gary Cooper and Myrna Loy as notable residents and also made the meaningless text "Montana Governors" a link.

[edit] Images

Capitol image added per Wikipedia:Requested_pictures#U.S._State_Capitals. I had to re-align the other images to get good text flow. The 1870 image was moved up the page to reflect the 'History' text that it should have been with. The Capitol photo was placed at the bottom of that section, where the text refers to "Being the state capital".

The 750x186 photo [1] is, artistically, not that good IMHO, in that it lacks a subject (it's treetops, mountains and sky!). It could be anywhere. If it highlighted the Sleeping Giant, it might be better; or if there were some other recognizable feature (a prominent local building, for example). I left it in so as not to upset Daniel, but I really feel it should be deleted or replaced. JanesDaddy 16:22, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

To the right you can see Carroll College (Montana). I believe the building just left of center is the train station. Hyacinth 09:19, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

OK, the images are really sucking now! A dead end with THE CATHEDRAL IN THE BACKGROUND! Let's have a Cathedral in the foreground! A random house WITH THE CAPITOL IN THE BACKGROUND! I'm getting rid of it. There's already a capitol photo. We don't need to clutter this page with useless photos. The residential area isn't identified or identifiable, so I'm removing it too. --JanesDaddy 10:38, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

The photo of the dead end with the cathedral did stand to be improved. I replaced it with a photo of the cathedral from Mt. Helena.SWD 17:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Dead end street with cathedral. Mount Helena, a city park, in background.
Dead end street with cathedral. Mount Helena, a city park, in background.

This photo (left), however, did document the sentence of the article: "However, most streets follow the chaotic paths of the miners, going around claims and following the winding streambed. As a result, few city blocks match the ideal of 30 x 60, rather they have an irregular variety of shapes and size causing many major streets to end abruptly." --Alex1011 14:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Residents

I removed David Sirota who is a totally NON-notable politcal hack with his own vanity page here. I'm not sure who added him (it was probably DS himself - that's his MO!) --JanesDaddy 21:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is this a real city?

I don't really understand how a township of 25,000 could be considered a city. There are towns in New Jersey with close to 100,000 residents and they're considered townships. Does someone have clarification on the definition of "city?" Jolb

Oops, I lose. [2]. Supposedly in Montana, anything above 10,000 people is considered a first-class city. This system is ludicrous. By that definition, the entire strip of land from Boston to Washington D.C. must be a city. Jolb

The American West doesn't have the county/township/town/village political organization of the Northeast/New England & parts of the Midwest. We have cities & towns in counties--some of which are larger than Rhode Island & Delaware!! Actually, Helena & its surrounding area is now considered a "micropolis" according to the US Census Bureau. United States micropolitan area

As a DC native & former resident of 11790 now living in Montana, I would propose that the DC to Boston corridor IS quickly becoming one large population center, albeit with "edge cities" [rf. Joel Garreau's book by that name]. The urban history of the American West is a fascinating story & quite different from that of Eastern cities. Take a trip out West & see how different things are here, west of the Hudson! Patti Pagan 15:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)Patti Pagan