Talk:Hefner (band)
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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Edofedinburgh 01:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I went to school with Antony Harding on the Isle Of Wight! He played in bands back then too. Awful bands! But I'm glad he stuck with it. He's made the big time now!(Knickerchain 14:45, 8 September 2005 (UTC))
[edit] Help me rewrite this sentence
- Unlike some fans, who laud its folk-like low fidelity as pretentiousness and interesting, Darren seems to see Breaking God's Heart as having too much potentiality, which was not actualized.
I'm not entirely sure I know what this all means. Does anyone laud anything as "pretentiousness"? That seems to be a negative attribute, which you wouldn't laud. I think the end of the sentence could perfectly well be simplified to "...as failing to realise its potential." I'm not sure what to do with "pretentiousness and interesting". What do you laud in BGH? --rbrwr± 19:52, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] suggestion for rewrite
I can't see how pretention can be a quality! I would remove that word altogether. I think from what I've read in the past, it's BGH's over simplicity and anti production that Hayman regrets now in retrospect. Yet it's that very lo'fi quality that the big fans of that album love (me included!) --Archwit 07:17, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Notable?
I just prodded this band, had it de-prodded on the basis of international tours and Peel sessions. Kinda scratching my head here... my grandmother could go on tour internationally, if she was so minded. And Peel sessions? Really? Keeping an open mind, comments appreciated. IronDuke 00:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- You don't think doing John Peel's Peel Sessions confers notability? Do we not have an international touring clause at WP:MUSIC? What were you basing things off of? --badlydrawnjeff talk 00:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Peel Sessions? No. I have friends in bands who've been offered international tours which they basically pay for themselves. Notable? IronDuke 01:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- You know what a Peel session was, right? --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. But perhaps I'm missing something. Happy to be enlightened (sounds sarcastic, but isn't). IronDuke 01:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Essentially, John Peel is one of the best known radio DJs in history, and he would often have artists in for what came to be known as "Peel Sessions," special sessions where the artists would perform for a set, and often new material or cover versions. A very, very big deal, and Hefner did an absurd amount of them considering they were an indie rock band. --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Call me a deletionist, but I don't see the bigness of deal here. I'll think about it more, and then AfD it if I'm still unconvinced. Thanks for your time. IronDuke 02:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Even if you don't buy the Peel sessions, there's plenty of media around, they charted at least once with "Good Fruit," and toured internationally numerous times. --badlydrawnjeff talk 02:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hefner easily meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability (international tours, several albums on the important indie label Too Pure (home of PJ Harvey among others)). An AfD would be a waste of everybody's time - I would suggest that you refer to the notability criteria before tagging articles for deletion (as you also did on Cud (band)).--Michig 20:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Call me a deletionist, but I don't see the bigness of deal here. I'll think about it more, and then AfD it if I'm still unconvinced. Thanks for your time. IronDuke 02:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Essentially, John Peel is one of the best known radio DJs in history, and he would often have artists in for what came to be known as "Peel Sessions," special sessions where the artists would perform for a set, and often new material or cover versions. A very, very big deal, and Hefner did an absurd amount of them considering they were an indie rock band. --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. But perhaps I'm missing something. Happy to be enlightened (sounds sarcastic, but isn't). IronDuke 01:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- You know what a Peel session was, right? --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:50, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Peel Sessions? No. I have friends in bands who've been offered international tours which they basically pay for themselves. Notable? IronDuke 01:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge
I think this page: A Better Friend should me merged in to this page. The album just isn't notable enough for its own page. futurebird (talk) 05:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's a single rather than an album. All the Hefner singles are stubs. Can't see them getting any bigger in the foreseeable future. Why not create a new page for Hefner Singles and merge them all into there? --JimmyTheWig (talk) 13:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
