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[edit] Hebron trade beads

I have seen information about Hebron beads used as Trade beads, (that is, exported to Africa,) from the early/mid 19th century. I have found the following sources:

*Dubin, Lois Sherr (1995): The History of Beads, London : Thames and Hudson ISBN 0 500 27851 2

  • Francis, Peter (1999): Beads of the World: A Collector's Guide With Price Reference, ISBN 076430884X
  • Arkell, A. J. (1937): Hebron Beads in Durfur, Sudan Notes and Records 20(2):300-305.[1]


I think I can get the Dubin book through a local library. I don´t think I can get any version of the Francis book, however, it is available on abebooks. If anybody has the Francis book available and adds the information, it would be great. Regards, Huldra (talk) 04:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I checked the Dubin-book: nothing about Hebron beads there, unfortunately. Regards, Huldra (talk) 07:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Nice to see that the article is now a B-class. I have checked, and it looks as if the only way for me to get hold of the Francis-book is to buy it. Something I don´t feel like doing just now: my house is already bursting with books. I would very much appreciate if anybody else added material from that book, if they can. However, I do think I can get the Arkell -article in "Sudan Notes and Records." (The local University-library has a first-class Sudan-section.) With time I will try to check it out. Regards, Huldra (talk) 19:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to start an Amazon account hopefully by the end of this week so I'm planning on buying a number of books including the Dabdoub Nasser book on Palestinian cuisine and the one you suggested by Aziz Shihab (There are a lot of recipes in that book and there's probably some info on history. I added info about coffee culture to the cuisine artcile from the online preview of that book) Anyway, I'll buy the Francis book as well if it is available. I'm going to Palestine next month and I won't be too active for about four weeks so I need to get the books ASAP. Inshallah this article will reach GA status someday like Nabulsi soap. --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I have just gotten the Aziz Shihab book two days ago! Yes, there are a lot of recipes there; If there is anything you want: tell me. Rather buy the Francis book! (Also: remember: the Francis-book came in several editions; try to get the latest edition, as he apparently expanded for each edition. ) I have ordered the Dabdoub Nasser-book 3-4 times now, but each time I have gotten the message back that it was sold out.
Also: did you notice the two books I added on Cinema of Palestine? That looks like good scholarly sources to me: maybe we should target that article as another potential GA candidate? (So far I have basically just added links to articles/people that are relevant. The text need lots and lots of expansion...). Both this article and Nabulsi soap are great fun; but lets face it: Cinema of Palestine is more important. And <sob>, what will WP:WikiProjectPalestine do with both you and Tiamut away! <sob><sob>Regards, Huldra (talk) 20:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC) PS: do take a lot of pictures! Especially of depopulated villages, if you have any chance!!
I am so excited you have the A Taste of Palestine book by Aziz Shihab! I don't want to put a load on you or anything, but some info on native Hebron foods in the "West Bank" section in Palestinian cuisine would be useful and as you already know, the "History" section is lacking in info, so if you find anything on that subject you should add it to the article. I'll buy the Francis-book by the end of the week (God-willing) and I'll try to get the Dabdoub book as well. I recently created an article on Omar al-Qattan and I would like to work on Cinema of Palestine soon. I got my last 4 exams in the next two days and then I'm pretty much free to edit for the next month. I got a while till I leave to the homeland but when I get there, I will certainly take pictures (mostly of Galilee villages near Kafr Yasif and Majd al-Krum like al-Birwa, az-Zeeb, Umm al-Faraj or al-Ruways). You also make a good point. There's clearly a lack of editors in WP Palestine. Maybe when I go there I'll encourage some English-speakers to join in (I doubt any will do so though, but hey it's worth a try). Please tell me you will be able to edit during the mid-summer! If not, I'm afraid there'll be a drought in activity in Palestine-related articles until August or September! In the meantime, there are a lot of articles that could be transformed into good articles. Like you said, there is Cinema of Palestine and I've been thinking, why not Bayt Jibrin! Its a depopulated village so all we really need is a lot of history (which you have provided) and info on the population

(easy) and you have added considerable info on the village's culture. Maybe a section on the village structure (economy, schools if any, local government if any) would be useful too. Finally I've had my eye on Gaza as well. Tell me what you think, Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

First: The A Taste of Palestine book: there isn´t really "historical" information, unless you call what happened in his life-time as "historical". The one bit about Hebron of interest is that Shihab went there, as a young journalist in 1948, in order to interview the then Mayor of Hebron, Sheikh Mohammad Ali Al-Jabari (a "super politician" ), and that he and two other journalists were invited to stay for dinner in his "luxurious home". According to Shihab, p. 39: "My favorite among the dozen entrees was a green pepper and lamb casserole called Lahm wa-filfil. For an appetizer, the tahina dip was superiour. The cucumber-sour cream salad helped reduce the fatty taste of the lamb." Shihab then gives the recipes for these three dishes (Lahm wa-filfil, p. 40, Tahina salad, p.41, Cucumbers with dill and sour cream, p.41.) Does this help?
And secondly, yes; Cinema of Palestine and Bayt Jibrin are definitely candidates. Remember to get a picture of some cinema showing a Palestinian film, if you can!! A close-up of the posters would be very nice... And, eh, I cannot promise that I will edit a lot this summer, though it is tempting (especially as I just got these new books (including Khalidi: All that remains.) We will see..
Thirdly: best of luck on your exams! (May I ask what level it is?) And how on earth do you have time to edit WP with exams just around the corner??
And yes: WP Palestine is extremely thinly populated. However, I remember when it was much, much worse. I remember when I first started here, I found this: Category talk:Palestinian people. Nice, eh? Oh well, it did serve one purpose: provoking me to become a contributor on Palestinians issues ;-D Take care, Huldra (talk) 22:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
  • His personal life would not be historical, but that segment on Hebron would be. I hope in the future, once we gather enough info, we could split the West Bank section into Jabal Nablus, Jerusalem, Bethlehem and the Hebron Hills.
  • I don't know if Israeli cinemas (My family lives in the Galilee) play Palestinian films, but I'm going to one so I'll keep my eyes open. I'm glad you got the Khalidi book (Is is informative enough?)
  • There just 11th grade finals (not a big deal, I'm doing pretty good so far). Today I have my last two (weightlifting and biology if you're curious ;)
  • Maybe when everyone's back we'll brainstorm on how to improve this project and Palestine-related articles. (WP Palestine is actually the best Arab wikiproject as far as quality and quantity go).

I hope to see your edits on my watchlist soon, Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The Khalidi-book is extremely informative, its one draw-back is that it is HUUUUge, ..you really ougth to be a weight-lifter to handle it ;-P
There is another book which is also extremely informative, and that is Guy le Strange, Palestine under the Moslems. It has been reprinted many, many times, but it was originally published in around 1890. The one argument *against* buying it is that since it is that old, it is not unlikely that the text will be released at a free site, say gutenberg.org, sometime in the future. It has an ooold text about food -yes, I will copy it-- Regards, Huldra (talk) 08:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)