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Archive 1 (to November 2007)

Contents 1 song about Casey 2 Casey 2.1 This band doesn't belong to Emo and Screamo 3 JT scream 4 TWLOHA involvement 5 Current Members

[edit] song about Casey

There is a song on youtube writen by Hawthorne Heights, as a tribute to Casey. The song can be veiwed at youtubeit is called When 5 becomes 4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaplain mos (talk • contribs) 13:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Casey

Some of the things on this wikipedia page reporting his death are being stated as fact. No where has their been confirmation of asthma or a blood clot- even to the point of the band themselves granting an interview to MTV and openly saying Casy HAD NO asthma issues. This page needs some serious cleanup. There shouldn't be any editing allowed until we know the full, OFFICIAL cause of death of Casey Calvert. He doesn't deserve rumors flying about him on the internet. There was enough disrespect to the band while he was alive, let's not fuel the fire with false claims.

76.177.43.7 17:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)Amanda

R.I.P. Casey. We love and miss you!

i agree with above. if you read the mtv interview the band says that they dont know how he died and they are waiting for the coroners report. DONNT SPRED LIES OR RUMORS. HONOR HIS MEMORY!!!!

well if he's dead we should remove the screamo label from the genres, I cant imagine TJ screaming. TJ Did do screamo, but on the band list it says he's deceased, i mean Ffs the word deceased sounds like he rotted to death or something, its like he passed away and they just go on about 'oh he's dead' and all that, why cant his memories and good times friends, family and fellow members of HH be remembered in a good way and not by slating him with one of the most cringing words in the dictionary, if you have a heart you'll feel the same way. R.i.p Buddy

The guys name is JT. Reverting that edit as unconfirmable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SayUnclePal (talk • contribs) 19:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

If there is enough well-sourced material on the life and career of Casey Calvert, perhaps someone would write a full Wikipedia article about him? At this point attempts to add him to deaths lists on Wikipedia will be blocked. An article on any individual added is needed to prevent Wikipedia from becoming a memorial site for everyone who dies. If an article can be written to conform to NPOV, sourcing and notability standards this will no longer be an issue. DoktorDec (talk) 11:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This band doesn't belong to Emo and Screamo

It is interesting to see, what genres bands could be categorized.

The sources for the "screamoband Hawthorne Heights" are stupid. I mean, what is yahoo? isn't it a just normal newsportal with mainstream information and no knowlegde in underground music? So what is this for a serious source? it isn't. "Allmusicguide" can be used only sometimes, too, because of the sometimes wrong information.

• referring to above paragraph

underground music? no, hawthorne heights is a mainstream band which has a mainstream label, it is not underground in the slightest, bands who play shows in clubs for 50-100 people and have a low popularity are underground, not a band playing stadiums......and i think yahoo knows the score, its fucking yahoo for christ sake

Also when you compare the musical style of screamo: Mosty screaming; mid-tempo D.C. Hardcore, with short (sometimes spoken) emotional parts; aggressive, chaotic screaming parts, it compares in some way with Grindcore; no Chorus, no order in the songs; Sounds like Funeral Diner, Orchid or Saetia. I don't think, this band is like that!

Mc-Ralph (German Wikipedia) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.75.76.34 (talk) 15:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

hawthorne heights dont have a screamer anymore, so maybe put (past material) or something just in brackets, and pop punk is probaly more accepted with people when it comes to this band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.65.47 (talk) 16:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

While true, its sourced. So, it stays. Inhumer (talk) 22:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

What about Pop punk? i sourced that yet the source and the genre were taken down —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrice34 (talk • contribs) 22:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Might have been because your source wasn't great, meaning it didn't meet wiki standerds for sources.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 02:42, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that Casey should be added back to where is says members, because the band them selfs said that Casey would always be apart of the band. No matter what........ No. Hes dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afia7x (talk • contribs) 03:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] JT scream

Why doesnt JT scream for the band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrice34 (talk • contribs) 14:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

It would probably affect his lead vocals, I know it'd be difficult to sing as high as he does and also scream lots of vocals...plus, it'd be difficult to do in concert as a lot of the screaming and clean singing parts overlap. James25402 (talk) 09:42, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TWLOHA involvement

The organization To Write Love On Her Arms (also here has, since Casey Calvert's death, come out with a t-shirt dedicated to him [1]. I think this deserves to be on the page. Rochelle CMN (talk) 05:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Current Members

shouldn't casey be listed in the current members if he is still listed on the new album just a thought —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilchickenb (talk • contribs) 03:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)