Template talk:Harvard citation no brackets

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[edit] What's the point

What exactly is the point of this template? What does it have to do with Harvard citation if it's not paranthetical, and why on earth does anyone need a template for such a simple sequence? And for our purposes it isn't even necessary to specify the year unless you're using more than one source from the same author. In most cases that brings the amount of variables down to two. In the cases where one isn't specifying a page, it's down to one (the name of the author). It seems to me that this only adds a few extra characters of code (and the template itself) with absolutely no substantial benefit to either readers or editors.

Peter Isotalo 09:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

As I understand it, the point of this template is to link to later references automatically. --Falcorian (talk) 23:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hard spaces between p. or pp. and page numbers

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Please see Tony1's comment here: this template's documentation (and derivatives) specifies using   when the "loc" parameter is used, but doesn't use the hard spaces when the "p=" or "pp=" parameters are used.

Change would be:

 {{#if:{{{loc|}}}
   |, {{{loc|}}}
   |{{#if:{{{p|}}}
      |, p. {{{p|}}}
      |{{#if:{{{pp|}}}
         |, pp. {{{pp|}}}
       }}
    }}

to

 {{#if:{{{loc|}}}
   |, {{{loc|}}}
   |{{#if:{{{p|}}}
      |, p. {{{p|}}}
      |{{#if:{{{pp|}}}
         |, pp. {{{pp|}}}
       }}
    }}

{{harv}} and {{harvtxt}} have been done already, and the harvcol set don't seem to need the change. Thanks. Carre (talk) 09:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Y Done --slakr\ talk / 13:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{Documentation}} template

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Please replace {{/doc}} with {{Documentation}} in noinclude tag. Currently, it is confusing whether the documentation is subpaged. --219.165.188.51 (talk) 15:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

done. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Something strange when more than 4 author names

Something strange in the state of Denmark that wasn't like that before (new-pp bug?)...

  1. {{harvnb|AA|BB|CC|DD|1990|p=1}} => AA et al. 1990, p. 1
  2. {{harvnb|AA|BB|CC|DD|EE|1990|p=1}} => AA et al. EE, p. 1
  3. {{harvnb|AA|BB|CC|DD|EE|FF|1990|p=1}} => AA et al. EE, p. 1
  4. {{harvnb|AA|BB|CC|DD|EE|FF|GG|1990|p=1}} => AA et al. EE, p. 1

The first one, with only four names, is fine. The other three are not, its printing the 5th name after the "et al." This didn't happen before, did it? Didn't it previously just ignore the names > 4? -- Fullstop (talk) 03:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)