Talk:Hans Speidel

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[edit] Rommel

This man is famous for one thing. He betrayed Rommel. This fact is not bought out in this article. It should be. Wallie 16:25, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

It is mentioned towards the end of the article, what happened in relation tp Rommel, it is based on what is known for fact, not what is suspected. Although what you have stated is most likely correct, the proof is inconclusive and as a result it can not be stated as fact in Wikipedia. (Khan 23:17, 8 December 2005 (UTC))

Besides, even if it's true, you cannot blame a person for cracking under duress... Gestapo type interrogations make Abu Graib look like a cakewalk. And it wasn't only you who suffered, with the practice of sibenhaft, the entire family of the condemned shared in his misfortune. Reasons enough for a person to crack. That is if he cracked. -- fdewaele 16:05, 9 december 2005 (CET)

[edit] Hearsay

The claim that Speidel betrayed Rommel is unsubstantiated and inadmissible without conclusive documentation.

In my considerable reading on the conspiracy against Hitler, I have never encountered any suggestion that Speidel betrayed Rommel. Quite the contrary. The WWII historian Louis L. Snyder, in "Hitler's German Enemies" (Hippocrene Books, 1990), says Speidel was enlisted by the conspirators to recruit Rommel for the plot, which he cautiously began to do on June 11, 1944, by informing Rommel of Nazi atrocities and genocide in Poland (Snyder, page 210). In the Nazi dragnet following the July 20 assassination attempt, Speidel - Rommel's chief of staff - was arrested on Sept. 7. "Interrogated by the Gestapo, he admitted nothing and betrayed no one" (Snyder, page 212).

Ronald Lewin, a British military historian, writes in "Rommel as Military Commander" (1968) that it was General Karl-Heinrich von Stülpnagel who, having botched an attempt at suicide following the assassination attempt, implicated Rommel under Gestapo interrogation.

The German Wikipedia article on Speidel indicates Speidel was dismissed as NATO commander because DeGaulle could not abide someone who had been a German general under Hitler being in command, whatever anti-Hitler credentials he may have possessed.

It is a basic tenant of evidence, and of journalism, that unsubstantiated accusations, i.e. hearsay, not be accepted as reliable.

FYI, the German term is Sippenhaft, not "sibenhaft."

Sca 16:19, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

As Speidel was 66 when he retired as NATO commander in 1963, methinks it more likely was a matter of retirement because of age. After all in 1963, De Gaulle was already in power for five years so why wait five years to oust him? -- fdewaele 11:45 29 March 2006 (CET)

I've taken out the De Gaulle allegation, which seems to be nothing more than idle speculation. Anyone who can find independent confirmation that Speidel was forced out is welcome to revert it. -- Hongooi 01:59, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Doctorate Degree

Between the wars Hans Speidel attended universities at Berlin, Tübingen, and Stuttgart, and was awarded a PhD in 1925. This is mentioned in the German Langauge version of Wikipedia. Dan D. Ric 02:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)