Talk:Hans Jakob Christoffel von Grimmelshausen

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@ Simplicius Simplicissimus: "loses himself in some Robinson Crusoe story" is really superficial: The protagonist retreats from the machinations of the world, which he perceives to be utterly corrupt, in order to become a hermit.

Two things to notice: In the core story his life has turned full circle from (step)son of hermit through all the facets of life then returning disilusioned to life as a hermit.

Leaving this circle/cycle for a new horizon, a new world is a bit more than just a "Robinson Crusoe" story.

And notice that Grimmelshausen was long dead before Defoe wrote "Robinson Crusoe". Defoe might even have been aware of the added chapter to Simplizissimus. Especially in view of the book Defoe wrote about the 30years War.

@ Der teutsche Michel: "of no interest" is a bit stark; after all, the phrase "deutscher Michel" has become a commonplace expression to denounce a German national stereotype: a square petty bourgeois Biedermeier Rip Van Winkle type of personality.

[edit] facts cited may be incorrect

This Wikipedia article is close to verbatim from the Britannica 1911 Encyclopedia, which is generally pretty authoritative, but there are several points of variation between the facts cited in it and more recent editions of Britannica. In particular the names of persons he entered into the service of, given in Britannica 2000 as Reinhard von Schauenburg of Offenburg, and Johannes Rüffen of Strasbourg, versus Franz Egon von Fürstenberg as cited in the present article. Perhaps an expert on Grimmelshausen exists "out there" who could clarify these discrepancies? Nodal Plane 13:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation needed

Looking good; now can we have all german translated as well?

People who read HCG and german-speaking people may not need it, but remember the global scope of Wikipedia.

Cheeri-o N. Macchiavelli 18:52, 18 May 2007 (UTC)