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Contents 1 Early discussion 1.1 Re: David Allan Coe/Parental Advisory Warning: 2 Terms coined 3 Feud with Kid Rock 4 Estrangement w/ HW Jr. 5 I mean, seriously

[edit] Early discussion

People please, this page is for talk about changes and problems with the article, not for discussion on the subject matter, if you wish to discuss him, please use the message board on his home page or on a fan page, thank you. RickoniX (talk) 17:35, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Battles with Walmart have delayed the release of his third studio album, titled Straight To Hell. Rumors are that it will be the first country album to bear a parental advisory warning.

1. David Allan Coe has already released a country album with a parental advisory warning. Here is a link to it: http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6010725&style=music&cart=302698009&BAB=E —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.40.69 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Re: David Allan Coe/Parental Advisory Warning:

I don't think David Allan Coe's album was on a major label. (The article says Hank 3's record was the first major label country album to have a parental advisory warning.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.37.140.252 (talk • contribs)

BMG is a pretty big company but it isnt a lable its a distributor.

===Where did the pictures go?===They were important because they showed the uncanny resemblence to Sr and III. Maluka 03:59, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, but when pictures disappear on Wikipedia, it's almost always because of copyright violations. "Important" doesn't trump illegal. As an aside, I'm not sure that someone's resemblance to their own grandfather is really all that surprising, notable or important. It might be worthy of a quick mention in the text, but no more, IMO. -- Xtifr _tälk 23:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terms coined

The article says that "A number of 'sub-sub-genres' have been coined to describe his original sound: hard-twang, punkabilly, cowpunk, alternacountry, slacker swing, hellbilly, and honky punk." I have several objections to this. First of all, if they are "sub-sub-genres", what's the subgenre? I think it would be enough to call them subgenres.

Secondly, I doubt most of those were coined to describe his sound. The terms punkabilly and cowpunk were used to describe bands such as the Reverend Horton Heat back in the '80s. Hellbilly described other stuff like The Cramps. There's a whole hell of a lot of stuff referred to as "alternative country". And "hard-twang" is used to refer to Buck Owens and Merle Haggard at [1]. Maybe "slacker swing" or "honky punk" might qualify, as I haven't heard them before.

Frankly, it appears some just took these terms off the web site [2]. The page says "Call it hard-twang, punkabilly, cowpunk, alternacountry, and slacker swing or honky punk." That doesn't mean they coined those terms for Hank III - it means they're using those terms to describe him. It's like if they said "Simple Plan - call them emo or pop-punk."

So, I'm going to rephrase the statement, to remove the implication that these terms were specifically coined to describe Hank III's sound. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.107.49.206 (talk • contribs)

• There are a few mistakes here. While it is correct that terms like cowpunk,alt country and punkabilly have been around the term "hellbilly" was specificaly coined to describe Hank III. Furthermore, "Hellbilly" would not be a good description for bands like the The Cramps since The Cramps were around long before that terem was ever used. Also, the word hellbilly in the acticle links to yet another term not hellbilly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.87.102 (talk • contribs)

I have to agree with 66.169.87.102. In fact, I was under the impression that HankIII himself invented the term "hellbilly", much like he invented "assjack". And, like assjack, it's a term he applies to some of his music. (I've gotten the impression from his shows that "hellbilly" is basically "assjack" with fiddle added, but I may be oversimplifying).  :) -- Xtifr _tälk 23:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Feud with Kid Rock

This need to be reworked, there has to be more to the story. I saw both Kid and III at Bogarts in cincinnati back in march of 2002, Kid said he played in Dayton the day before and wanted to play with Hank III

Plus in at SLAMM Magazine interview in 2001 they said "Hank3's guitar has been autographed by the likes of Kid Rock and Loretta Lynn -- testament to his schizophrenic influences."

Maybe he is just jealous because Kid seems to be closer to JR that Hank III is, or maybe it was just a stunt to sell CDs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krawhitham (talk • contribs)

This section was deleted by 66.169.87.102. The topic does seem to have been dealt with, but it against general Wikipedia guidelines to delete comments from a talk page unless they are clearly libellous, which this clearly is not (although the last line may be borderline). Xtifr _tälk 22:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

1. We could add the line of lyrics that says it and say something like 'some controversy surrounding the two may have been iniated by lyrics found on the cd...'

maybe someone who is a better 'wikieditor' could format it in a proper way.

lyrics:

"Just so you know so its set in stone kid rock dont come from where i come from,yeah its true he's a yank,he aint no son of Hank and if ya thought so God-Damn you're Fuckin Dumb"

song: "Not Everybody Likes Us" cd: Straight to Hell

"FOUR TILDES" 17:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Estrangement w/ HW Jr.

Can anyone detail out why HW III and HW Jr. are "estranged?" --131.123.87.83 02:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

As well as why both III's and Jr's pages make zero reference toward one another aside from the disambiguation blurbs. Seems like these pages are cleansed by PR flakkies. --SomeAsshatinToledo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.84.191 (talk) 23:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I mean, seriously

this page sounds like it was written by hank III. 24.98.225.16 (talk) 18:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)