Talk:Hanafuda

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During play, when a card is drawn from the deck, it is placed on the table face up. If this is not done, how will the players know which card to match it with?

I play the Korean variant of the game with subtle difference in play and scoring, so perhaps in the Japanese variant, the card is placed face down. -- 68.206.99.145 05:33, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] History of Hanafuda

Saw a cleanup request for Hanafuda, and did a major rewrite on the history of Japanese card games, hopefully enough of one that pages for other, less popular card games can simply be linked to this one.

Thoughts? Dace K 20:05, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name

I recently acquired a hanafuda deck, but the name on the box is Kwa-do. this site seems to refer to it as Hwa-t'u, Godori, GoStop, and Ha-to. Apparently, this game is known by many names. --Jsnow 21:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

The name depends on the country where the cards are sold. But actually "GoStop" is the name of a game, not a name for the type of cards. This may be the case with other names you quoted. 203.217.22.128 00:14, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rules

... Maybe it's just me, but I'm not sure the 'rules' section is entirely accurate. All the sites I've visited detailing koi-koi (including the linked Sloperama and Nintendo of Japan's site) play 8 cards per player, 8 on the field. The current rules listing (7 per player, 6 on the field) seems to be the dealing rules for hachi-hachi, with I'm not as familiar with. I guess I'll leave this for a few days so that maybe someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll edit this article with (what I understand to be the correct) koi-koi rules before long if no one voices any objections. I'm thinking a seperate rules listing for each of koi-koi and hachi-hachi? --71.124.58.37 06:40, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

If it's verifiably wrong, then go in and change it. --Atkinson 02:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese or Korean cards in picture?

The picture in this article once had the caption, "Korean Hwatu cards," and it was changed to "Japanese Hanafuda cards," with the comment from the editor, "Korean cards look a little different." Now, these look identical to the Korean cards I've played with in real life and online. Also, when I search for pictures of Hanafuda cards, I get pictures that look a lot different from these while the pictures of Hwatu cards look exactly like this, or quite similar. If nobody tells me different, I'm going to change the caption back. Better still would be to find unprotected scans of verified Japanese Hanafuda cards, which I haven't got.--Atkinson 02:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

That's strange... the deck I have looks like the picture in the article, and I got them from Japan. Although it's kinda funny how that Wisteria card is upside down. ^^ --Cael 03:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Looks like someone solved the problem by deleting the picture. 203.217.22.128 00:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could we have some pictures

I am looking for interesting card designs and found this linked from the main "playing card" entry. You mention that the card designs are different, but you don't show any examples of these designs. I did find some examples through the links, but it would be nice if there were some examples of the cards displayed in the table in the Game Play - Cards section. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure about the ownership of the images (or which are which :) ).

--Martin lester 09:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unencyclopedic Tag

Please see WP:NOT for clarfication of why I added the tag to the rules section, especially WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information #4: Instruction Manuals. The Kinslayer 11:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Half a month late, but here goes. I find it odd that a section describing the rules of play would be considered unencyclopedic. The way I see it, it's a definition of rules, which isn't quite an instruction manual. That is, it's not telling how to operate some object to achieve some desired effect (thus an instruction manual), and neither does it attempt to teach strategy (thus a tutorial/game guide/etc.). Besides that, entries in Wikipedia for specific other card games (such as the many variants of poker) have sections describing rules of play. They should, too: people who don't know how to play should be able to read the rules of play, which is really the most important part. An encyclopedia article about a simple game without such basic and crucial information is very lacking, I'd say. -Cael 09:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Found the relevent bit I was referring to at WP:NOT: While Wikipedia has descriptions of people, places, and things, Wikipedia articles should not include instructions or advice (legal, medical, or otherwise), suggestions, or contain "how-to"s. This includes tutorials, walk-throughs, instruction manuals, video game guides, and recipes.

Looking at that, and then looking at was in the article, it did seem to pretty much be 'how to play' section. Links to different versions of the rules would be fine I'm sure, but telling people step-by-step how to play anything (cards games, computer games, board games etc etc) is definitly covered by WP:NOT meaning it shouldn't be in the article (as far as I see it anyway!) The Kinslayer 12:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh and I think by saying that the rules aren't official could open a problem with WP:OR as well (just pointing it out, nothing more though!) The Kinslayer 12:13, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

    • To be honest I agree when it's put like that. I'll remove the tag, otherwise I'd have to say the same about Uno. The Kinslayer 00:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Note about Korean cards

They are slightly different... the number of them, how they are played and the jokers tend to amount to more than the Japanese version. I have a link for reference... --66.215.18.156 00:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hanafuda, Hanafura, Hanapua

I am not 100% sure about this but i believe that in Japan this game is called Hanafura and in Hawaii, Hanapua. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.244.34.93 (talk) 08:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Koi Koi rules

It seems that the rules to koi koi are off in a few places here. Although the rules do seem to vary from place to place, it seems that in the standard Japanese game of koi koi, calling koi-koi and getting another yaku does not double the score as stated. It only doubles if the opponent beats you to the punch. The only thing calling koi-koi does is allow you to score more points, not double your score. This seems to hold true in most video game console or computer versions of the game, along with being confirmed in other rule sites.

Also, another important rule that was left out is that the your score can be doubled if you get more than 7 points in a round. Obakedake 02:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gosutop

Gosutop (Go-stop/[Gostope]) should be added to one of the lists of games played with hanafuda. It is the largest game played in Korea that uses the Hadafuda (or Hwatu) cards. Please consider adding it to this article. The Korean article for Gosutop is: ko:고스톱. Amphitere 16:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)