Talk:Hamlet 2

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A fact from Hamlet 2 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 27 January 2008.

[edit] Regarding my edits

1.) The synopsis flowed poorly. I am conveying the same information, but with a better flow to it. The synopsis does not have to be official.
2.) The fact that it ended on Halloween is not important.
3.) Generally the term "executive produced" is substituted with "produced" so it will flow better. It means the same thing, the "executive" just makes the sentence sound strange.
3.) The reactions were far too wordy for just two reviews.
Rwiggum (talk) 16:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. Since the film is not available in the public eye, we cannot cite the film itself for writing out its synopsis. I used the existing citation to outline the basic premise of the film. Perhaps we could use a review instead to write out a fuller synopsis? The "Halloween" mention can be removed. However, producers and executive producers are two different roles, so the people who worked on Little Miss Sunshine didn't do the same thing with Hamlet 2. However, the carried-over relationship was independently noted, hence its inclusion. Also, I do not know why you think the reactions are too wordy. Both reviews have substantial content, and the points and quotes that summarized them the best were used. Why would this exclude The New York Times, anyway? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I understand we can't cite the film for the synopsis, but all I did was re-word the synopsis itself. Plus, the name of the character has been released, so it should be acceptable to add that. I concede on the point of the executive producers. I didn't see the actual producers listed, and just assumed they were the sole producers on the film. As far as the reviews are concerned, I'm not calling their content into question. Rather, I'm questioning how much of that content needs to be on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rwiggum (talk • contribs) 17:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

To my recollection, the reviews were added in detail because Hamlet 2 only screened at a film festival, so there were very few published reviews. I imagine this is because published reviews are of more interest to the public when the film is commercially released for them. Maybe we could check to see what other reviews exist? Variety is one possibility. We could scale back on the existing reviews and add more varied perspectives of the film. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

That's an idea. If we could shorten them to simply short, concise quotes, I think that would work best. Unfortunately (well, not really) I checked around, and all the reviews are positive, so I couldn't find one to add another side. But like you said, I'm sure the reviews will be a bit more varied once it's in wider release. Rwiggum (talk) 22:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)