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There are some problems with the Ham article: Dry-cured ham doesn't require rehydration prior to eating (depending on how it is prepared); some of the comments seem to have a POV; and what is meant by the comment "Be real. Stay kosher." in the section on Italian hams??? The "Ham" page could use a "stable" version. -- Another anoymous coward.

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[edit] China

Professor Zee is an expert in quantum physics not culinary art. The subtitle of his book "Swallowing Clouds" is "A Playful Journey Through Chinese Culture, Language, and Cuisine". The reference of that recipe belongs to "Ripley's believe it or not" not in an encyclopedia.

[edit] China

I find it hard to believe that they actually throw out the ham. The book Swallowing Clouds by A. Zee does exist, but can anyone find something to corroborate the story? Kesahun 23:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

(I'm Chinese) I have never heard of that either. I suspect vandalism. Besides, I think "Jinhua" ham should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.75.181 (talk) 07:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Celebration

Isn't it ciji great that there's an article about ham? I love wikipedia.

And ham. Blacklite 15:50, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hear Hear Limkopi 1:50, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Drury Lane ham

Does anyone know why Drury Lane ham is so called please?

It sounds like a pun. Drury Lane is a street in London which contains a lot of theatres, and actors that overact are called hams.

[edit] Ham Sticks

Did you know that hame is being made into ham sicks? Just like Cheese Sticks! Only HAM!How funny is that...i saw a commercial about it the other day! Tell me what u think please!

[edit] United States

Why does the US play an important part in this artcle? Did they pioneer ham? :) That sounded stupid, but I think the article needs to state why it's referring to the United States - unless we expand it to detail the state of ham in other nations? Kierenj 11:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Bahahaha. "Ham Pioneers" is the name of my new never to exist band. WilliamACopeland

[edit] In the paragraph

religeon, it contains the words "Ham is not permitted for consumption by either the Jain, Jewish or Muslim faiths. More for the rest of us."

Aren't the words "More for the rest of us", written in a first person way?

Pece Kocovski 07:19, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] opinion

whilst i agree with him i feel that describing thanksgiving ham as "disgusting" is a little over opinionated. good article however. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.134.91.147 (talk) 00:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Moved Talk Page

I have moved the talk page from the redirected Talk:Ham (disambiguation) to just Talk: Ham, and copied across all the pig ham-related comments. El Pollo Diablo (Talk) 16:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "not" vandalism

I just removed a superfluous link to an article named "not." As a side note, I know that this IP address has been recently guilty of committing vandalism to this article, but it certainly wasn't me that did it. 168.9.120.8 18:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lock this page?

This page seems to be a popular vandalism destination. I suggest it be semi-locked so anonymous users can't edit.--MARQUIS111 20:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] China again

I think the China section on ham is written in an inappropriate style for an encyclopedia. It is peppered with unnecessarily flowery and redundant language (e.g. "a most unique", it's unique or it isn't). Additionally is written in passive voice and the French words are a bit too much. Edwin s 14:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hinduism

I have never come across any reports of Hindus avoiding consumption of ham as part of their religion. I have removed the erroneous information.

[edit] Rowan Jones

What the hell? AllStarZ 16:51, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

-- I concur. Why is Rowan Jones linked at the bottom? I propose it be removed. Buttlumpy 18:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marked for deletion.

I have not heard of this 'meat.' It is clearly a hoax and non-notable. 67.60.57.82 20:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions for additions

This article seems to focus mostly on listing various cultures, and lack information about ham itself.

I would suggest instead of grouping the content by culture, to group it by preperation techniques (for example, smoking, using cloves, smothering in mustard seeds, etc). References to which cultures use those methods can be made inside each section for those techniques. I think that would change the emphasis of the article from a list of countries which eat ham, into a list of hams.

I'm surprised more traditional English methods aren't mentioned.

--Kate, 85.158.45.41 14:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more - this article is far too much of a list of different individual hams, when it should be more about the underlying 'principles' of ham-ness. I'd suggest that it needs a complete rewrite to move from a country-based list to a series of 'processes'. I've come here from the Prosciutto article, which I've suggested renaming to air-dried ham or dry-cured ham as a way of a) reflecting the move away from such semi-generic names as the PDO bandwagon rolls on and b) avoiding the slightly surreal debates about whether Prsut from the Balkans is in fact 'prosciutto'. A more general article like that could act as a {{main}} expansion article for a smaller section here on dry-cured hams - and a lot of the individual products should be moved into daughter articles. Bayonne ham is one of my absolute favourites, but there doesn't need to be so much about it here. FlagSteward 14:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

--Ham- Anglo Saxon = settlement by a river or stream. In England you will find many towns with the suffix Ham eg. Farnham,Amersham,Chatham. There is even a town called Ham near Richmond on the Thames. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.113.57.165 (talk) 18:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)