Talk:Haakon the Red

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WTF is "1070-1079"? The article says he ruled for thirteen years, so it's neither his life nor his reign.

Yes the dates are unreliable all over the line of Swedish kings. It is one of my future projects to double check the dates.--Wiglaf 21:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions for improvement of the article

• Westrogothic law:
  • There appear to be two versions of this document (Äldre Västgötalagen and the Yngre Västgötalagen): is the regnal list tied to any of these two versions, or is the regnal list exactly the same in both versions?
  • Is there an English translation published of this document/these documents? If so, where?
  • Could the (regnal list of the) Westogothic law be used as a direct source, instead of going around via the familjebok/encyklopedin?
• List of Swedish monarchs#References lists four English-language recent sources on Swedish kings: could someone check which one(s) of these give(s) detailed information on the regnal succession sequence around Haakon? If such source gives such detailed information, couldn't it replace (part of) the sources in Swedish? Or are there still differences with encyklopedin/familjebok so that all these sources need to be mentioned to give a NPOV version of the possible succession sequences? Note that the succession box at the bottom of the article should only be used to reflect the consensus of historians on the subject. If the historians have no consensus, then the succession box should either be removed, either adapted so that it reflects the main likely possibilities.
• Are there others sources with a description of U 11 apart from http://www.canit.se/~griffon/diverse/runes/stenar/u11.htm ? - I mean: how likely is it that the Hakon mentioned on that stone is the "red" Haakon?
• "Red" as colour of hair: is that so? Source? Or is that just a best guess of some Wikipedian (in which case this contention should be removed from the article, per WP:NOR)?
• Could someone write the article (or make an appropriate redirect) for Svithjod, used in one of the Saga translations?
• Similarly: Levene (quoted from Westrogothic law)?

--Francis Schonken 10:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Further: replace Encyclopædia Britannica text with something more correct:

"At the end of the Viking Age [approximately 1050], Sweden remained a loose federation of provinces. The old family of kings died out in 1060; after the death of the last of these kings' son-in-law, Stenkil, in 1066, a civil war broke out. Around 1080 Stenkil's sons, Ingi and Halsten, ruled, [...]."

Sweden was no such a federation of provinces, it was more like a formalized loose cooperative kingdom with the Svear as rulers and warriors and, the others as tributaries.

• A king was originally a warlord, the sentence "border case between king and warlord" doesn't make sense.

Said: Rursus 13:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why Norwegian name?

What's the logic behind writing the name in Norwegian? After all he was a Swedish king so why not Håkan the red? Narking (talk) 21:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)