Talk:Gun violence in the United States by state

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The information and data contained in the Wikipedia article titled, "Gun violence in the United States by State" is intentionally 100% incorrect. There is an anti-gun political agenda behind these "facts". Guns don't harm people, people harm people. Granted a gun might be the tool that is used by the person to cause the harm, but people also use knives, hammers, saws, logs, boards, cars, bottles, rope, wire, bombs (hello suicide bombers), and a million other tools to cause the harm that the person intends to cause.

Never in the history of the United States has a gun, knowingly and of its own volition, ever harmed a single solitary human being. People use a gun to commit violence against other people. What motivates a person to attack, harm and kill other people by using a gun runs the gammet from drugs, jealousy, greed, alchohol, religious furvor, sex, no sex, changing a TV channel at an inopportune time. etc. etc.

For Wikepedia to allow itself to be used to further a political agenda is shameful. Please either remove this silly article at once or change the title to more honestly reflect the data being presented. I suggest: Violence caused by people using a gun in the United States by state.

Be Honest: Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Txharleyman 03:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC) txharleyman

Contents 1 Seems to undermine the gun-banner's agenda 2 Some clarification on a couple of points please.... 3 Order? 4 Huh?

[edit] Seems to undermine the gun-banner's agenda

Actually, if you compare the listing with the Brady Campaign’s ratings of the states, you find that these state data show no correlation with the grades that the states get from Brady. The worst 5 states have ratings varying from A- to F, and the best 5 states have ratings varying from A- to F. And, surely, a list that puts NH as the best cannot be too far wrong.

“Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - Gen. John Stark —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StormDruid (talk • contribs) 17:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Some clarification on a couple of points please....

Anyone know why Arkansas initially appears lower in the list than it should, but then jumps to the proper spot when one switches the order from descending to ascending and back?

Does whomever posted this data know what year they are for? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StormDruid (talk • contribs) 17:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Order?

What order are these in exactly? in terms of per capita, its all over the charts. Paladin Hammer (talk) 03:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

To the makers of this table: does percent gun mean "Percentage of people who own guns" or "percentage of deaths by guns"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.127.148.114 (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)