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[edit] page not semi protected

I think it would be best if the page remains semi protected until it comes out, if not, we'll need to keep rollbackers on the page 24/7 to stop the trolls from saying "Lose the game" every other word. Orangemango (talk) 22:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Rumors Section

Should we include a section with internet speculation? For example "This just a rumor, but their is a chance that GH:A might include additional peripherals like Rock Band. http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/17/rumor-guitar-hero-aerosmith-to-use-drum-and-mic-peripherals/"Mm03gt (talk) 20:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Given it's a reliable source (joystiq) I'd make sure to state the name of the source of the rumor along with it. --MASEM 20:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rumors Section is about to go

Per WP:CRYSTAL, I'm about to nuke it. Coreycubed (talk) 18:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Development rumors don't seem to fall under the guidelines set out by WP:CRYSTAL. They are inferences made from reliable sources, not just baseless speculation about future events.--Mm03gt (talk) 20:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lose The Game

Why the hell does this article constantly say "lose The Game" every other ****in' word? It's pissing me off, and it's obviously a troll vandalist doing it, unless there's something I'm simply not getting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.3.69 (talk) 00:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

It's because they're trying to make you lose 'The Game'. I wonder if said game has it's own entry on Wikipedia yet? Or ridiculing the use of the phrase so many times, i'm not sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.209.70 (talk) 01:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Just looked into it, and wikipedia has no entry.. someone should take this trolling and make it into a positive article. for more information go to losethegame.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.209.70 (talk) 01:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Trolls/vandals. Just revert the edits. Simple. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 02:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "List of songs in" article

I have created the List of songs in Guitar Hero: Aerosmith article just to redirect to the main article. Just like other Guitar Hero articles, users are going to add speculation and create the article, so I just created it to hopefully prevent it. Please add the article to your Watchlist and if it gets changed before we have official sources, please revert it back. Thanks. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 03:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dedicated to Aerosmith?

in the article it says "The game, which will focus entirely on the top-selling American rock band Aerosmith, is set to be released this June." but the PR says "As fans progress through their careers in the game, they can rock out to scores of Aerosmith's greatest hits, as well as songs from celebrated artists that the band has either performed with or has been inspired by in some way." Should we get a change here? 71.222.55.251 (talk) 07:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Protection?

Why is this page protected now? I started this entry after much debate in the GH3 talk section, and now I'm not even allowed to edit it, without even so much as a discussion about the necessity for protection? This is extremely frustrating. Hardly in line with seem like wikipedia's principles.--Mm03gt (talk) 15:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

There was some vandalism/trolls that were constantly adding the text "Lose The Game" to the article in the past few days. I don't know if anyone requested for page protection, but a Wikipedia administrator had went ahead and protected the page. If you wish to know why the page was protected, it would be best to ask the person who protected the page. In this case, you should ask Jmlk17 (talk · contribs). Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 19:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
To request that an edit be made to the main article, add {{editprotected}} to a new section on this talk page. Be sure to have a clear and specific description of the requested change. Thanks. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 19:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Due to the hype over the announcement of this game, there had been considerable vandalism to both this article as well as to the main Aerosmith article. I requested that both articles be semi-protected. A one-week period of semi-protection (meaning only established registered users can edit) for this article was instituted, while a two-week period of semi-protection was insituted for the Aerosmith article. I'm one of the primary members of the Aerosmith WikiProject, and when I notice that articles are vandalized so much to the point where the vandalism is not being properly reverted in time, and when the history page is loaded with recent vandalism edits by IPs, it's time to semi-protect it. This is just meant to be sort of a cool-down period to try and discourage the vandals and trolls. I must say, though, that the people who put this article together so quickly have done a great job so far. I'm sorry if you're too new that you can't edit it, but just give it about a week, and you can resume editing. Abog (talk) 16:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thanks for the clarification, --Mm03gt (talk) 01:24, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PC/Mac Platform

This game is in the "PC game" and "Mac game" category, but as far as the article states, there doesn't seem to be a planned release for computer. Should it be removed from those categories, or does the article simply forget to mention this platform? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.233.126.39 (talk) 23:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GI songs

Game Informer says that these songs are in the game: Movin' Out, Make It, Sweet Emotion, Draw The Line, Uncle Salty, No Surprize, Kings and Queens, Mott the Hoople - All The Young Dudes, The Kinks - All Day and All of the Night, Joan Jett - I Hate Myself for Loving You, Cheap Trick - Dream Police

Although it's just a quote from the band, viable or no?

[edit] Soundtrack section

Anon IPs continue to try to change the soundtrack section, presently in prose, to a list of songs like we'd normally do for the other GH games. However, I feel at the present, there's not enough verifiable information to create this list - we have about 4-5 songs absolutely confirmed, and 3-4 other groups, but then several others that are status unsure. I think we need to wait until we have at least 10-12 songs that can be fitted into a list (artist and song, particularly for non-Aerosmith tracks) to make this more a list than prose. --MASEM 15:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

It needs re-protected again. Every other edit is spam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.166.165.234 (talk) 16:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, now that we have the first 3 tiers, I've gone ahead and made this a table. Note that I've used the format that I've converted the List of songs in Guitar Hero into based on a suggestion that grouping songs in tiers is showing some fan favoritism to the game, as likely others not necessarily interested in the game will be more interested in what songs, so grouping in one large sortable table (separating bonus songs if there are any) is better. Once the list is complete we'll move it to List of songs in Guitar Hero: Aerosmith (which I will make sure redirects to here presently. ) --MASEM 23:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey all, getting a bit frustrated with keep being edited out, most recently over bonus songs. The article quoted is: http://www.destructoid.com/hands-on-impressions-guitar-hero-aerosmith-88756.phtml but I can't get the damned page to show it properly. Also, I personally really do think that the soundtrack section, given the layout and storyline of this game, was much better suited to tier organisation. Looks very messy as it is at the moment. --Face777 (talk) 00:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll add that in a bit (I think it was added before but destructriod wasn't serving it correctly, thus failing to be useful). As for the approach, once the full track is known, it'll be split off to a list article, which, based on our other GH lists that have gone to Featured List, should be approached like a discography and not from the standpoint of the game. It's still sortable on the tiers to see the right order (or will be , once completed). --MASEM 00:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Simulation"

I would like to challenge the usage of the phrase, "simulation of the playing of rock music," or something to that effect. My reasoning is, Guitar Hero: Aerosmith is not a simulator. If it were, it would have 22 fret buttons and 6 strum bars. Saying that it's a simulation is like sayig World of Warcraft is a mining simulator. I tried to edit the phrase and it was deleted immediately. --MisterMcLov1n, 3/31/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by MisterMcLov1n (talk • contribs) 01:02, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Can I respectfully disagree? I think Guitar Hero and Rock Band type games are types of simulators, like the FIFA games are soccer sims, the Ace Combat games are flight sims, the Forza games are racing sims, etc. You can play all of these with a with a standard console controller and when doing so, they are still sims. It is not as though these games are only sims when played with the simulated controller (flight stick, driving wheel...um...nothing for FIFA though). Does that make sense? The controller (and amount or lack of buttons) isn't the issue. I think it's OK to call these games guitar/drum sims. The difference with WarCraft is, the point of the game is to wage war. Not go mining. It can be called a war planning sim...most video games do try to simulate something virtually. Oh and by the way I didn't touch this article or delete your edit...just browsing the talk page and thought I'd chime in. Hopefully this makes sense but if not please ignore me, thanks!!--Scottymoze (talk) 22:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dream On

Does anybody know if this version of Dream On will be the one from the first album or the rerecorded one for Guitar Hero III. Sweetchild01 (talk) 23:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Dream On hasn't been confirmed yet. The only mention is that it was released as DLC for Guitar Hero III. My 2 pennies is that the 2007 re-recording will show up in this game. I believe that Dream On will show up in GH:A since it was only available in GH3 for a week, then subsequently pulled. The limited window was used to keep the song fresh for the people who will buy this game, and to stave off the "I can get it in GH3, why would I pay for it?" arguments. I think they'll use the re-recording simply because they use re-recordings when the masters are lost or unusable, which would be pretty likely for a song recorded in the 70s. The original's either lost in the ether, or the guitar track had other instruments on it, making it unusable for the game (Harmonix has explained before that's why a lot of the older songs in Rock Band are covers). The previews mentioned that Aerosmith had to re-record a few of their songs, because the masters weren't usable. Dream On is likely one of those. We'll see. Skrutop (talk) 15:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History Section

Someone wrote the line "This is not the first time Aerosmith have featured in such a game. Quest for Fame had a very similar premise to this Guitar Hero edition" in the history section. It's an interesting tidbit, but it doesn't feel like it should be in the history section for GH:A. I'm thinking that there could be another section that references Quest for Fame and Revolution X as other games that have featured Aerosmith, but I'm not sure where to put it and what to call it. Any ideas? Skrutop (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I guess the Aerosmith template already serves this purpose well, right? Or, if anything else, these bits of info could be placed in their own article.189.82.72.208 (talk) 00:23, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why Is there a separate column for the Wii?

Every console is going to have the same setlist, so what's the point of this? Ultrabasurero (talk) 13:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DragonForce? Eruption?

There is no proof for these songs. Considering the unliklihood of TWO songs being included in this game by the same, non-Aerosmith band, and the fact that all of the songs are mentioned on Guitar Hero dream setlists, I propose that they were added as vandalism and should be removed immediately. 72.240.177.210 (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Done Teancum (talk) 15:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)Teancum

[edit] The Cult & Run DMC

The new display box at Gamestop adds that there will be a song by The Cult - I'd assume "She Sells Sanctuary" - and that Walk This Way will be the Run DMC version. However, I don't have any pics, so I won't put it in the main article. Pretty cool news, though.Skrutop (talk) 16:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Controller featured on US TV

Monday night, on the show "How I Met Your Mother" the character Marshall could be seen running around with the GH: Aerosmith guitar (or at least the faceplate). Not really worth mentioning in the article, but a fun little fact nonetheless. Teancum (talk) 18:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I saw this. I also noticed Guitar Hero III was showcased on My Name Is Earl in an episode before its release. Meweight (talk) 19:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Train Kept A Rollin' Named in Xbox 360 Achievements

360sync.com posted the achievements for Guitar Hero:Aerosmith. One of them is to get 350k on Train Kept A Rollin'. That doesn't count as "confirmed," does it? Skrutop (talk) 12:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I would guess no. Especially since referencing a thread on scorehero.com wasn't good enough either. Crazydiamond1to9 (talk) 05:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Why No Order?

Why in the setlist is it all out of order from the venues? Shouldn't it be in order from the venues? It just looks kinda dumb in the "Set 2, Set 5, Set 1" format. --ZacLOL (talk) 21:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

When we brought the other Guitar Hero lists to Featured List status, it was recommended that we treat the list as a discography, with the tracks in alphabetical order, rather than as they are presented in game, as, from a WP standpoint, it is not what order that the tracks are that are in the game, it's what tracks are in the game that is most important with the widest appeal.
I'm with ZacLOL on this one. I think it makes more sense to show where they are in the game. It's not like the list is hundreds of songs long; if you need to scan for Sweet Emotion, for instance, it's pretty easy to find. Skrutop (talk) 13:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

--MASEM 22:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC) yeah this looks dumb and needs to be put into order by venue/set —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.89.106 (talk) 00:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

The Pokemon list uses different ordering options...could we try that?—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 00:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Release Date

Amazon lists the release date as June 29, not the 28th as listed at the top of the article. Since there is no reference for June 28, can it be trusted? I'm sure it's probably out of some press release, but in light of this discrepancy, the source of the date in the article should be cited.--Skucera (talk) 02:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Wal-Mart and Gamestop list the same date as Amazon.--Skucera (talk) 02:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Order By Tier Broken?

I tried to sort by tier, but instead it just sent me to the top of the page. I looked at the wikicode, but couldn't figure out why the table was doing that. Sorting by song, artist, and master recording seems to work fine. Any ideas of what's causing that? Skrutop (talk) 13:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)