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[edit] people unable to feel guilt...

'Psychopaths' (and sociopaths) are now called Anti-Social Personality Disorder, so that last section should probably be update to the current term. Also maybe add something about Narcissistic Personality Disorder, who also either don't feel guilt, or experience it as shame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.206.240 (talk) 04:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] wouldn't that apply to just about anything

"a concept used in various ways in various contexts"...wouldn't that apply to just about anything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.107.41.228 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Guilt has such a negative connotation

Guilt has such a negative connotation that it's often hard to accept it has a very necessary advisory role. Of course being guilty and feeling guilty are two different pebbles of the same colour. In the same manner we have an oil light on the dash of our car that comes on to warn us of possible damage if ignored, the feeling of guilt that can come over us is only a warning light and is as practical and necessary as, say, the feeling of hunger, which is to let us know it's time to take in sustenance. The feeling of guilt comes about when we wish to advise ourselves that there is a problem with integrating ideas, in other words, we've just compromised our values. The feeling of guilt will persist until the problem is addressed through change. It is not meant to indicate right or wrong, its role is only to advise a conflict of values has been introduced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.202.155 (talk • contribs)

[edit] This needs two articles

This needs two articles. It appears there are at least a couple of very different kinds of guilt, psychological and legal. Are there any others? 2 August 2005 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mneumisi (talk • contribs)

I concur. The section on legal guilt should be divorced from the psycology. The second paragraph in the "legal" section should also be eliminated or moved. 19 June 2006—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mneumisi (talk • contribs)
Beautiful Mneumisi is responding to his own message, intentional or unintentional? Travb (talk) 10:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Well if you can't agree with yourself, you probably shouldn't make comments. I would have to say "unintentional," since they were a year apart and unsigned at that. I wonder if I am conducting conversations with myself on any other talk pages? Still, Once again I have to agree with myself. Manney 13:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I disagree. Rather, a better discussion of the scope of 'types of guilt' should replace this section. Many educational institutions discuss guilt as "collective" (sometimes called shared), "private," and "public." This is merely an observation from the discourse I've had on the topic relating to literature and film examples. Lepercon (talk) 05:39, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Who writes the emotions articles?

Has anyone else noticed that people writing the emotions articles seem to exhibit the emotions they are writing about? For example, check out the ranting in the discussion group for hate, as opposed to say the joy people or the guilt people. 26 August 2005; —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.17.226 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Guilt's regret link ... to the race horse?

Guilt links to regret -- which is about a horse. I doubt this was intended. 27 November 2005; —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.68.140.70 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Link to Regret/Section on Criminal Guilt

re: the above anonymous comment: Apparently, this has been corrected. However, someone knowledgeable needs to edit the section regarding criminal law in this article on Guilt. It begins with a incoherent sentence. soverman 21:06 16 Feb 2006 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.205.69 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Added weasel words template

I added the weasel words template. "Some people..." etc. is not up to encyclopedic standards. Whenever I see "some people" the obvious question is who?

The more I read this article the less I like it. It needs a lot of work, but I am not interested enough in the subject to spend my time doing it.

I also added the {{unreferenced|date=August 2006}} tag.

ALSO: PLEASE SIGN YOUR POSTS using ~~~~ Travb (talk) 10:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guilt Trip

Guilt trip is the act of making someone feel guily, not guilt itself; so I don't think the entry's should have been merged. --Spooony 20:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] criminal law guilt

I punched up a major revision of that section. I also considered a wholsale deleting of "causes of guilt" section since it is all weasel words without citation, but it is a start. Perhaps later. I used legal sources, for which there are very few, to define a concept which is taken for granted by just about everyone. I wanted to avoid philosophy, but I wanted more than a circular argument which required mentioning the idea of free will. Manney 15:06, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bag of fucking bricks

I'd love to include the line "guilt is like a bag of fucking bricks -- all you gotta do it set it down" from The Devil's Advocate movie. I think it's somewhere in between the psychopath and "dealing" section, but I can't find a place to put it. I think it represents a prominent, current view despite opinion.

[edit] May-be Guilty by association should be a disambiguation page

Guilty by association currently redirects here, but I think it could as well redirect to collective guilt. Maybe it needs a disambiguation page with links to both these articles.80.235.69.196 11:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, this was meant for another discussion page (Association fallacy).80.235.69.196 11:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Why does it redirect here? "Guilt by association" is a logical fallacy, and belongs within that catagory. 68.209.235.149 15:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)