Talk:Gudrun Ensslin

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I have removed categories relating to people who have committed suicide as her cause of death is still highly contested. Somearemoreequal 10:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I've reinserted these categories. Your addition of the Cause of death disputed category is enough. -- Matthead discuß!     O       21:45, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Again, having both 'cause of death disputed' and 'deaths by suicide' categories is both contradictory and unsatisfactory. Somearemoreequal 21:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Style and Meaning

Some of this sounds very odd, for example:

Gudrun Ensslin defined herself over her boyfriends and so she was also not sure, whether to be more right or left at this time in Tübingen, where both studied.
I wonder if over is an inappropriate translation of German über, which should be translated here as via, through.
The reference to stereotypical good girl sounds odd. Norvo 03:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] pornographic film or not?

Comment to: when Ensslin participated in a 'somewhat pornographic, experimental film' entitled Das Abonnement (The Subscription). The word pornographic is IMHO wrong, see discussion in the german WP under "Filmauftritt: Das Abonnement" [1] (in German). Krakatau from de.wp --77.128.0.153 15:19, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Additional: a 'somewhat pornographic, experimental film' is Ensslins own comment to this film. But it was definitly no pornographic film. I found: Allerdings beging sie [Gudrun Ensslin - Krakatau] gleich noch einen weiteren Tabubruch, als sie in einem Kurzfilm mitwirkte, den sie selbst "etwas pornographisch" nannte. Das war freilich eher eine schüchterne Kühnheit als eine zutreffende Bezeichnung. Denn entgegen allen Gerüchten ist "Das Abonnement" kein "Porno", sondern ein experimenteller Kurzfilm in Schwarz-Weiß, wie ihn Absolventen der Filmhochschule damals drehten. Der Regisseur war ein junger Iraner, und neben Gudrun Ensslin wirkte der Schauspieler Lienhart Brunner mit, der 1968 zum Star von Handkes "Publikumsbeschimpfung" wurde. Dem Genre nach war es ein absurder Film: Ein junges, nacktes Paar liegt im Bett und tut nichts weiter als sich zu langweilen, keusch zu liebkosen, aufs Klo zu gehen, zu essen und rohe Eier zu trinken, während durch den Schlitz der Wohnungstür immer mehr Zeitungen und Briefe fallen, bis das Zimmer überflutet ist. (Gerd Koenen: Vesper, Ensslin, Baader. Urszenen des deutschen Terrorismus. Fischer Verlag, Frankfurt am Main 2005, ISBN 3-596-15691-2, S. 128) Krakatau from de.wp -- 77.128.26.159 (talk) 03:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)