Talk:GShG-7.62 machine gun

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Contents 1 GShG-5.45? 2 Use 3 Minigun incorrect 3.1 Minigun is correct

[edit] GShG-5.45?

Does a variant of this exist in the 5.45 Calibre? User:EX STAB, 03:18AM 2nd April 2007

[edit] Use

So why wasnt this weapon mounted on chopper doors, vehicles etc like the M134 minigun?, It has only been mounted on wings. User:EX STAB, 22:15PM, 30 March 2007

[edit] Minigun incorrect

I suggest renaming this article to exclude minigun and use machine gun instead. Minigun, is one of two things, its a cultural term for rotary barreled weapons (this issue is addressed in the Minigun article), or to GE's rifle caliber rotary barreled machine gun family specifically. Minigun is incorrect here, as I do not know of it existing, even in rough translation in the Russian. -- Thatguy96 01:32, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Why?, The GShG-7.62 IS a rotary barreled weapon and is the Warsaw Pact equivalent of the M134 and works the same way as a Minigun but has 4 barrels instead. Classing the GShG-7.62 as a Minigun would make it easier to describe and refer to that type of weapon

Apart from that, It uses the rounds as found in the Mosin Nagant Rifles.

.User:EX STAB

Because of exactly what I just said. The term "minigun" has two meanings, one is an informal name for all rifle caliber rotary barreled machine guns, while the other is specific to GE's product line. The title of the article, in my mind, should not contain an informal name most commonly used by movies and videogames and not used by those who use or produce the piece of equipment to describe it. -- Thatguy96 13:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The weapon on the Mi-24 turret (excluding the Mi-24/35VM) is a 12.7m Yak-b. It combined with two Gsh-G's forms the core of the standard GUV-8700 gunpod. There is another variant of this pod that replace some or all (I am uncertain of this detail) of the guns with an AGS-17 30mm grenade launcher. --Avimimus 14:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minigun is correct

The weapon does meet the requirements listed in the minigun article:

1. Multi-barreled: It has four barrels.
2. High ROF: 6,000 RPM
3. Gatling type: I'm guessing rotary barreled is the British/Australian term equivalent.

Imagine a M134 or GAU-2/A with four barrels, and you are more or less imagining the GshG-7.62. Anynobody 08:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC) GshG-7.62 off wiki image. Anynobody 08:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Except that as I continue to point out "minigun" has two meanings, one that has been used in popular culture, while the other is specific to one system in specific. If you can provide to me a single source that refers to this weapon as a minigun (in English or in Russian) that isn't a popular culture reference, then I will concede. Otherwise the term minigun is incorrect. To provide an good example, Jane's Weapon Systems, 1986-1987, refers only to the GE weapon as a "minigun" while the GShG's older cousin the Yak-B is referred to as a "four-barrel Gatling-type 12.7mm machine gun". I find it amusing that I continue to stress this point and people keep saying it fits some "criteria" for being a Minigun. Minigun is a term specific outside popular culture to a single weapon. Otherwise the term is incorrect.

Furthermore, changing the name of an article without discussion is bad policy, and for the reasons I just stated here, I plan to change it right back. Please do not change it back without having a complete discussion. -- Thatguy96 11:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)