Talk:Grupo Santander

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Should this page be better split with Grupo Santander, ie group aspects on the Grupo page and the Spanish banking operations on this page in line with other locations around the world? Ian3055 18:29, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposal

I'm going to change the direction of the proposed merger, the naming convention is that we follow the legal name of the firm which in this case is Banco Santander Central Hispano, so we'd end up essentially with the Grupo Santander article at the BSCH location with an introduction like:

Banco Santander Central Hispano SA (IBEX-35:SAN, {{lse|BNC}}, {{nyse|STD}}) also known as Grupo Santander and BSCH, is a....

As the Grupo article says it is only a marketing name, only going to highlight its lack of legal status. Ian3055 23:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I merged the articles under the "Grupo Santander" title; a case can be made indeed for the "Banco Santander", but please reopen the RM. For convenience, I'll also merge Talk:Banco Santander Central Hispano here. Duja 07:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New brand and logo

Recently "Banco Santander Central Hispano" have changed their brand and logo. Now it is just "Santander":

[edit] Proposed move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Merge. I was kind of bold, but the articles are not too long and largely cover the same topic. Once the information grows enough, it can be split back. Duja 07:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


I see there is a request for this article to be moved to Banco Santander. As an alternative, can I suggest Banco Santander Central Hispano → Santander (Spanish bank) or similar, as well as Grupo SantanderBanco Santander? The current structure is a bit confusing. At the moment, we have two articles (Banco Santander Central Hispano and Grupo Santander) which are largely being used to describe the same thing - the actions and structure of the parent group, although the former is somewhat more Spain-oriented. As the Grupo Santander article is by far the longer, perhaps a more sensible path is to transfer the Abbey/recent history text from Banco Santander Central Hispano over to Grupo Santander. This would give two distinct articles, one on the parent (Grupo SantanderBanco Santander), another on the Spanish operation only (Banco Santander Central Hispano → Santander (Spanish bank)). Gr1st 20:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Most articles on other European banks with large overseas operations, such as ABN AMRO, Barclays, BNP Paribas and ING Group, have one single article without a separate article on the domestic retail activities. Only HSBC has a specific article on its UK activities HSBC Bank (Europe)). Currently there is no information in the two articles on Santander that is specific to the Spanish domestic activities, so I'm not sure a separate article is warranted. Alast0r 11:44, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
    • In that case the two articles should surely be merged? Gr1st 12:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.