Talk:Grond

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[edit] Stub status

I've removed the stub template - while this remains a short article, I don't feel there is much more information to be added here. --Urbane legend 10:45, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] various

  1. As I recall (and the Encyclopedia of Arda confirms), the first Grond was a mace, not a warhammer.
  2. There's no indication that Sauron stashed the mace somewhere for thousands of years before reforging it into a battering ram. One was named after the other, but that's it.
  3. The etymology of the name would be a worthwhile addition; the page linked above says it means club but doesn't say whether that's from a real language or one of Tolkien's invention.
  4. I removed the external link to the black metal band; if it's ever famous enough for an article then it can be disambiguated appropriately.

—Charles P._(Mirv) 14:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In Other Media...

Grond is also the name of a Hulk-like villain in the superhero RPG Champions. --Dr Archeville 18:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding how many licks it took to get to the center...

There seems to be some conflicting reports between this article and the article on Battle of the Pelennor Fields...

Grond was a hundred feet long, large enough to need to be drawn by great beasts and operated :by mountain-trolls. However it took four blows to destroy the gate, and for the last three the :Witch-king enhanced the ram with a spell.

So, is the 'foul tip' implied? Or shouldn't it be mentioned explicitly? Ryecatcher773 06:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)