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I object to the article "Frappé (Greek)" being renamed "Greek frappé coffee". When you order a frappé, you simply ask for just that - a frappé. You do not ask for a "Greek frappé coffee". It's not like Irish Coffee, for instance. Irish Coffee is a term used internationally for a particular drink, whearas "Greek frappé coffee" is used no where by anybody for anything.

Similarly, we do not refer to Austrian cappuchino or French latté.

I'm for changing the article back to "Frappé (Greek)".

--Damac 15:18, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Indeed, but then we should ask an admin to delete "Frappé (Greek)" so we can move the article there. I do not allow my contribution to be copy-pasted without attribution. —Geraki 2005-07-14 T 15:52 Z

  • I see your point about attribution, I wasn't aware that original authors lost out with redirections. I had set up the "Frappé (Greek)" entry before I noticed your page on the Categories: Greek Cuisine page. How do I go about asking admin?

I guess the Wikipedia:Requested moves guide applies here.—Geraki 2005-07-14 T 23:12 Z

Also, I think adding "coffee" to the title is not bad. "Frappé" is a milk drink in every country except Greece. If you ask for a "Frappé" in London you will get a milkshake and not coffee. —Geraki 2005-07-14 T 15:56 Z

  • I would stick to Frappé (Greek). If needs be, there can be a disambigation page set up to distinguish it from Frappé (milkshake) or whatever. The original designation "Greek frappe coffee" was pointless as it did not come up in simple searches of the word frappe. I think my suggestion confirms to standard wiki naming proceedures. --Damac 17:06, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Yeah you cannot find "frappé" when searching for "frappe", but that is not the case here (the article shows normally on searches). While I would not cry if my suggestion is not followed, I believe that according to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (precision) adding "coffee" to the title would make the subject more clear. Of course when one finds it in the coffe category it's not needed. Whatever. —Geraki 2005-07-14 T 23:12 Z

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Don't know whom I'm suppose to discuss this with but I just added an article Yiannis Dritsas, should it be merged into Greek frappé coffee article? ~Mallaccaos

Yiannis ritsas should expand to a proper bio article instead of being deleted/merged Pictureuploader

And it might be correct to comment that 'frappé' is a french word. (meaning to beat or knock -as in the ice cubes do in a shaker) On menues the beverage is more often presented as 'Café frappé'. 'Greek' coffee is something entirely different. John Oslo

It might be appropriate to mention Starbucks' Frappuccino in this article. It's clearly a derivative (perhaps an 2nd or 3rd derivative ;-) --Clconway 08:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

What evidence do you have that it's a derivative? It's a cold coffee drink involving sweetened coffee syrup with milk and emulsifiers (not instant coffee), ice, and a blender. Nescafé frappé is made with instant coffee, sugar, water, and ice, and doesn't need a blender. They're both cold coffee drinks, but then iced coffee predates both of them.... --Macrakis 23:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] merger

I oppose the proposed merger. One page is about a drink, the other is about a guy who made the drink. What is this fondness for merging pages? -The Gomm 21:33, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps because the inventor is not notable enough other than the invention of Frappe, so he doesnt deserve an article on his own. It should be expanded to be a proper bio article. Pictureuploader 07:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Dritsas was not the mythologized inventor of frappé. It was his employee, sales rep Dimitrios Vakondias [see "Frappé Nation" (Editions Potamos), page 134].Dansyoung 11:02, 26 October 2006

Well, let's see what's left of the Dritsas article if we take out things about Nescafé Frappé:

Yiannis Dritsas was the distributor for Nestle in Greece.

That's all. That is little enough to be an appositive phrase. Since no one has found anything else notable about this fellow since the merger was proposed, I am merging it in. If it turns out he later became president of Nescafé International and had three children with Britney Spears (now, that's notability!), the article can be split out again. --Macrakis 23:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I concur. Just write the invention story too, and redirect his name here if you like. NikoSilver 23:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Greece consumes four times more coffee than the rest of the world"

Even if true, this is a rather misleading statistic, as it compares Greek coffee consumption to world consumption and not consumption in coffee-drinking countries. Although Greeks do love coffee, per capita consumption of coffee in Greece is less than half of what it is in Finland. Moreover, per capita coffee consumption in Greece regularly ranks below such countries as Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, and Germany. If it seems that Greeks are drinking more coffee, it might have to do with the durability of frappé foam and the custom of drinking frappé slowly over the course of an hour or two or three.Dansyoung 16:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I added that remark copied from a magazine. What are your sources? Pictureuploader 17:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The ICO (International Coffee Organization) compiles country-by-country statistics on per capita coffee consumption. You can find them on many sites, including http://earthtrends.wri.org/text/energy-resources/variable-294.htmlDansyoung 10:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Frappé in Ireland

"Most coffee shops do not produce frappe as the simplicity of their make up eludes most Barristas."

I am not sure about that sentence...

Actually, the majority of the Ireland section is a different style. Could someone with some decent knowledge of the area edit it a bit? I know nothing about frappé, never mind in Ireland, so I'm not really qualified... --FaerieInGrey 20:28, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

and also can u source the price? is it always 4 euros?--Slogankid 18:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)