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[edit] This is not a PR page
This is not a PR article. Some of the names appearing in the names list do not merit being there - even if though they are good people; for instance, Kristian Leontiou, Theo Paphitis, etc... One of you guys adding them in must be plucking out names from a list or a book and pasting them in. Please give some thought into what you are doing and let us be constructive or (very civilised) action will be taken to remedy the situation. Thanks. Politis 12:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removing Cypriots from the list
I propose removing the Cypriots from the list to a new article called '(Greek?) Cypriots in Great Britain'. Naturally, there are people whith both Greek and Cypriot parents; these can appear in both lists. I am not sure about those Cypriots who consider themselves to be only Greek. Politis 18:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Included people
I was wondering, since the definition of a "Greek Briton" is "people of Greek and Greek Cypriot ancestry who were born or were raised in the United Kingdom", why are we including folks like Stelios Giannakopoulos and Georgios Samaras when neither of them were born or raised in the UK? --Kimontalk 17:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ελληνικός Βρετανός
Shouldn't it be Ελληνο-Βρετανός or Έληνας Βρετανός? Actually, why even have a subtitle at all? Greek American, Greek Canadians, etc. don't. --Kimontalk 17:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Change of article name
The name of this article is meaningless and had no preponderance. The ususal term is British Greeks, Greeks in Britain. Politis 17:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The term 'British Greeks' isnt good either,,since that sounds like British people living in Greece as Greek citizens...depends on the way its understood....i think this is pretty understood to most... Hispania16 October 2007 (UTC)
The title was recently changed from Greeks in Great Britain. Suggest we move it there or, even better, just Greeks in Britain (it is more succinct).Politis 16:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I doubt there would be any confusion with ...Brits living in Greece. I mean, come on, who doesn't know that the Greek diaspora is only comparable to the Jewish? Greek-Americans etc means only Greeks living in US and not vice versa, and it's the most common term. Same for Britain (et al). I wouldn't object to "Greeks in Britain" either though. NikoSilver 22:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Population Figures
The population figures given in this article are at least 30 years out of date. After the Turkish invasion of Cyprus there were 200,000 Greek Cypriots alone that lived in the UK. By 1980, 200,000 Greek Cypriots lived in north London and there were about 40,000 Greeks from Greece living in London alone. Whoever wrote this article has obviously taken the London figures for Greek Cypriots in the late 1970's and applied them to all Greeks. The realistic figure for Greeks (of all origins) living in the UK is more like 400,000, about 270,000 who live in the Greater London area and 130,000 in the rest of the UK including about 50,000 in Birmingham. --82.152.253.59 (talk) 18:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
It is generally accepted that the Cypriot population in London, often referred to as Little Cyprus is the same as that of the Cypriot capital Nicosia whose population is currently 279.545, therefore I propose that the figures in this article and those that are related to it are amended to 400,000 and that the figure of 200,000 is used as a historical reference for the Cypriot population of London in 1980 which I know for a fact was the value quoted by everyone at that time. --82.152.253.59 (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge to Western European migration to Britain
'Greek Briton' is a neologism rarely used outside Wikipedia. In addition, this page is short and mostly unsourced, and can easily be merged to the above page. Cop 663 (talk) 19:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, the immigration from different areas of western europe have completely different stories behind them. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 23:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- This is not about changing the article, it's about housekeeping. Have a look at Western European migration to Britain. Cop 663 (talk) 23:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- All these countries and areas have completely different reasons for immigration to Britain and at different times. It is silly to just put it all in one article. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 23:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the input. Could you have a look at the discussion about this at the UK Wikipedian's noticeboard and offer your opinion on the ideas under discussion? There are a few problems with articles of this kind and we're trying to figure out a good solution. Thanks. Cop 663 (talk) 23:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- All these countries and areas have completely different reasons for immigration to Britain and at different times. It is silly to just put it all in one article. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 23:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- This is not about changing the article, it's about housekeeping. Have a look at Western European migration to Britain. Cop 663 (talk) 23:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Oppose, There is already an article on European migration to Britain at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Other_%28United_Kingdom_Census%29
This article Greek Briton is linked directly to that, and articles about other immigrant communities are linked to White Other (United Kingdom Census) also. Western European migration to Britain should be merged with White Other (United Kingdom Census) and this article left alone.--82.152.253.59 (talk) 15:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
