Talk:Grand Duchy of Cracow

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[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


Großherzogtum Krakau → Grand Duchy of Cracow — Undiscussed move from the english name to the german name. It doesn't make much sense. There should be an english name, Großherzogtum is obviously a name for a political unit as a kingdom. —≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 17:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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[edit] Discussion

This is going to be another pointless discussion, along the lines Kraków versus Cracow. Who cares what is the canonical name of the page if the information is easily reachable by looking for the German, Polish, English or any other name? --Jotel 18:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't care about Cracau, Krakau or Krakow, but what I oppose is "Großherzogtum". ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 18:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Exactly. For the same reason, the issue at Free City of Kraków/Cracow was never whether it should be 'Wolne Miasto Kraków'.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

This RM is invalid; there is no need to discuss a move - if any, we should discuss moves from Grand Duchy of Cracow to a new name. PS. I moved the article to its original name per WP:SNOW. I suggest remaking the above RM to GDoC to Großherzogtum... to show how that move would completly lack any support. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Not a good idea at all to interrupt this discussion by changing the move target, and I'd suspect you'll just be reverted if you try. The current proposal is perfectly valid; if you can convincingly show that this proposed move is to a bad name, then do so, either here or in a new move proposal. WP:SNOW seems to me to warn sternly not to do exactly what you are proposing. Andrewa 20:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The consensus is clearly for the article to stay at "Grand Duchy…" and not "Großherzogtum…" --Stemonitis 10:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)