Talk:Graham Taylor (footballer)

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In what way was has his long ball tactics succesful?? Despite numerous high profile jobs he has consistenly underachieved. Its clear POV.

He won promotion with Lincoln, 3 promotions in 5 years at Watford, finished 2nd in the first division, got into europe, Fa Cup finalists, promotion with Villa, finished 2nd in the first division. He then had unsuccessful spells with England and Wolves, got Watford back into the top flight, before a short spell with Villa. If you had bothered to read the article you'd see the massive success he has had in his career, though his time as England manager was unsuccessful. Though you could argue the only successful England manager was Sir Alf Ramsey. Bedders 06:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I completley disagree. Firstly his long ball tactics have not been succesful. The clear trend is away from the long ball to the target man. Secondly he is overall regarded as an unsuccesful manager having never won a major trophy despite large financial resources particularly at Villa and Wolves. He is indeed incomparable with Ramsey but not even close to Robson or even Keegan who managed to qualify for a major tournament. When he took over at Villa in 2002 they were intertoto winners who had finished 6th the previous season. In three months he managed to drop them 10 places. They just avoided relegation. I do not want an edit war. I understood you are a Grimsy Fan but you have structured thņis article to a degree that it is clear POV in favour of Taylors reputatuion.

I've not structured this article at all, infact the revert I did was the first time I've touched it, though I've been planning to add an info box for a while now. I'm no fan of Taylors either, he played for the club before I was born and is now vice-president of bloody Scunthorpe! I think his style of football was boring and some of things he did as England manager were laughable. But he was successful, if not quite at the highest level, 3 times he got a club promoted into the top division. Which I think is enough to justify sentence reading "Taylor's long ball style proved partially successful" Bedders 12:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
How about "Taylor's long ball style proved successful in gaining promotions for lower-division clubs, but less so when leading top-level teams" or similar? --MartinUK 22:15, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Racism quote

Was it Taylor who stood up to a fan chanting racist abuse by saying something like "That's a human being you're talking about", or am I thinking of someone else? Lfh 21:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah tht's right he did. It was during a match against San Marino at Wembley. England were playing crap and Barnes was getting the stick. It's filmed on the documentry Do I not Like that.


[edit] Picture please

IceDragon64 (talk) 01:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)