Talk:Graham Ovenden

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[edit] Birthplace needs disambiguation

Currently points to Alresford, which is a dab page. Given the existing text, there are two choices. Either the town of New Alresford or the adjacent village of Old Alresford. -- Chris j wood 14:39, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

The former claims him, so I've pointed to it while cleaning up the intro. Melchoir 00:54, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] From User talk:Tony Sandel

Re this edit: I've reverted it for now. 1) It's unsourced, and I can't find any verification in NewsBank. 2) It's in an area that's likely to be risky in terms of WP:BLP; I'd recommend getting it vetted at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Gordonofcartoon 13:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi - there's lots of references via Google, but I can't find a really authoritative reference, so will leave your revert.Tony 13:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Tony
Thanks for the reply. I just found an authoritiative one:
"Brotherhood of Ruralists" A Dictionary of Twentieth-Century Art. Ian Chilvers. Oxford University Press, 1998. Oxford Reference Online. Oxford University Press. <http://www.oxfordreference.com/views/ENTRY.html?subview=Main&entry=t5.e399>
Apart from Blake, the best known of the members of the Brotherhood are probably David Inshaw and Graham Ovenden ... Ovenden is best known for pictures of prepubescent girls, which have sometimes been attacked as pornographic. In 1977 he published a book called Nymphets and Fairies, and in 1979 he wrote: "My work is the celebration of youth and spring—the fecundity of nature and our relationship to it. This is why the subject-matter of my work tends towards the girl child (more often than not at the point of budding forth) and the English landscape in all its richness and mystery." ... <snip ref to Hetling affair> ... Ovenden had another clash with the law in 1993 when officers from the obscene publications squad of the Metropolitan Police seized a large quantity of his photographs. They were eventually returned following a petition on Ovenden's behalf by fellow artists.
I guess something can be condensed from that, but I'd still run it past WP:BLP. Gordonofcartoon 22:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, but the reference can only be seen by memebers. I'll just put the original stuff back on (tweaked) as it doesn't seem too contentious.Tony 09:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)Tony
the reference can only be seen by members
That doesn't matter; we're not limited to sources universally available online. For instance, many bio articles cite the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, which is only avalable in print form or online subscription). The version you've restored is unsourced, making it fair game for removal anyway, and even more so for potentially contententious bio material. Gordonofcartoon 10:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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