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Contents 1 Spiral Staircase 2 Doors of Paradise 3 Rewrite 4 What to do with Keiskamma Altarpiece 5 Trivia 6 The Chartres Labyrinth 7 Name of the church

[edit] Spiral Staircase

We need a citation for this, I think. I've spent a bit of time in Grace, and never seen this. The staircase isn't mentioned in Canon Michael D. Lampen's guide to the cathedral. If we have this only by rumour, we can't include it.

[edit] Doors of Paradise

The doors weren't washed away in a flood; they were removed to save them from pollution. I don't know if the SF copies were used for the reproductions now in the Baptistery or not. (Three of the original panels are coming to the United States this year; so they certainly still exist.) -- Bpmullins 02:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite

This article is in desperate need of a Rewrite. That it is User:GreaterWikiholic 11:45 AM, 26 March 2007, (PT)

I agree. Would you like to make a start? If not I'll take a look at it but not for a few days. -- BPMullins | Talk 19:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What to do with Keiskamma Altarpiece

Since the Altarpiece has been removed from the cathedral what should we do with the section here? Should we make it a seperate article. If we do that we fear it might be deleted. So what shall we do.

It needs to be removed from the Cathedral article. It should never have been included in the first place since it's not a permanent installation, and Wikipedia's not an events calendar. If it deserves a separate article it can be defended on any AfD that may arise. -- BPMullins | Talk 21:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.GreaterWikiholic 21:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

I removed the entire section. There were three items. One, about a song that mentions the cathedral, was pop culture cruft. The claim about the cathedral's replica of the Ghiberti doors being 'more official' (whatever that means) belongs in the body of the article with the description of the doors if the claim can be supported. I read the Joan Didion essay yesterday. It does mention the cathedral, but it's not really about the cathedral at all - it's about Bishop Pike (and not very complimentary at all).

None of the three really belong in an article about Grace Cathedral. -- BPMullins | Talk 15:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Chartres Labyrinth

I removed the "cite need" as the web site for Grace Cathedral clearly states that the design of their labyrinth is based on the Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Chartres (The Cathedral of our Lady of Chartres - aka Chartres Cathedral). I added a photograph of the labyrinth in Chartres for comparison and added a little text for clarification.

Jenn R 16:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I removed 'carpeted' from the description of the Labyrinth. The labyrinth is now built into the pavement. (Verified on my visit last Friday night. If somebody visits with a camera, a new photo is in order.) -- BPMullins | Talk 17:20, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name of the church

A disputed edit in the lead stated that the name of the church is actually Grace Cathedral Church.

I believe that's actually true - I nodded when I read the change. I recall seeing that on the signboard outside the cathedral. I'm not going to revert the edit at the moment because I don't have support, and my memory may be faulty. If anybody goes past the cathedral, check the signs for us, please. -- BPMullins | Talk 16:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC)