Talk:GPS tracking

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/Archive 1 - February 2006 - April 2006

Contents 1 Store and Forward 2 Personal GPS Trackers 3 not a crystal ball 3.1 About "potential abuse" 4 advertisements 4.1 External links 5 Proposed merge of GPS Wildlife Tracking 6 Countermeasures against GPS trackers - original research or synthesis

[edit] Store and Forward

The paragraph: Besides this, jamming an industrial grade GPS transmitter would only work temporarily because most of them use a "store and forward" procedure to store up points that were not received and transmit them again later. This capability is built-in so tracked vehicles don't lose data when they are out of cellular range temporarily.

Is surely wrong?

If the GPS frequency is being blocked then the device could not store and forward later as it would not know where it had been. The Store and Forward functionality would only work if it was the Cell Phone / Transmitter frequency that was being blocked, not the GPS frequency.

[edit] Personal GPS Trackers

I have sent Ivan a message with regards the deletion of the above, as I do not believe it is spam. I would appreciate discussion on this

212.169.1.41 14:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)Adam

The "where is Tim", "where is Adam" and "Badger track" links and article text were written like spam - a bit of text, and then several links. My first reaction in those cases is to delete the links. Having a second look at the links, they seem not to be about advertising, but about some geeks tracking themselves 24/7. Maybe some reqriting, and putting the links in the appropiate section (instead of creating a new "External links" section on bottom) would be fine.

However, I should take a look at the Wikipedia Style Manual, just in case.

Ivansanchez 16:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

On a second though: those links may match rule #11 of "Links to be avoided on wikipedia": "Links to blogs and personal web pages" [1]

Ivansanchez 16:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate the Style Manual claiming such links should be avoided in normal circumstances however the section was discussing personal pages as this is the cutting edge. In this particular circumstance, I feel that the links are justified as they add to the content in Wikipedia by saving a reader having to Google. However, if you would prefer and as a compromise how about we simply put the text back in the page but leave the links out? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.26.44.39 (talk) 18:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] not a crystal ball

I removed the paragraph "The advent of GPS tracking devices potentially could shift society's balance of power towards that of a police state. It is now much easier for surveillance abuse to be used for political repression or social control, as envisioned by George Orwell in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four." as WP:NOT a crystal ball. Actual verified abuse that has occured, or verifiable warning of future danger from a legitimate published party (shouldn't be too hard to find) would be OK. Herostratus 08:55, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About "potential abuse"

68.251.43.232 posted inside the article:

This above information is inaccurate. The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in United States v. Garcia (7th Cir., 2007) 2007 WL 286534, held that placing a GPS tracking device on the vehicle owned by the suspect did not amount to a search.

Ivansanchez 01:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] advertisements

The following entries in "see also" appear to be ads. do they belong here? (GPS Equipment companies etc) Insight_USA ESITrack Inrix Dingfelder 01:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

They are links to wikipedia articles not to sales sites. GPS Police and OnStar are companies as well. If the articles linked to are bad articles then get those articles deleted. --Dual Freq 04:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

not quite what I meant. What I was asking is: These links point to wiki pages for companies in the GPS sector. Should those pages exist as wiki articles? or are they themeslves spam? Certainly there are many other major companies in that same sector that are not listed. I don't see any particularly notable info on those pages, that sets these companies apart from their competitors. Should all major companies in this sector have therir own pages and then be listed here as well? Adding only a coupld compaines out of many seems subjective at best. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dingfelder (talk • contribs) 22:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

I have a question: under the company section of this wiki article there is only one company name. When other companies are added (non-linking, wiki-linking, or outside linking) they are deleted within a few days. Is this right? Should the companies section be available for all comapny names or just OnStar? brian1y 4.25.07

A company should be linked from a wikipedia article if it is really relevant to the content of the article. e.g. if that company invented the GPS modules, or contributed with a major and recognised technological breakout.Ivansanchez 18:16, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

I've removed this section. It fills continually with spam and only has one arguable link (the Russian one - which I'll look at including somewhere else).

I strongly suggest that the article simply doesn't need this section. If you are a commercial concern then try not to see this as unfair and deal with it - Wikipedia policy is a clear NO to advertising.--Matt Lewis (talk) 12:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I've found a perfect place in the article for the Russian toy news report - the article now has two citations. We must use notable citations and try not to take the lazy option and use External links - it is too open to abuse with GPS, and doesn't appear to be needed here (very often they are not). --Matt Lewis (talk) 13:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merge of GPS Wildlife Tracking

I feel there is a substantive difference between GPS Tracking and GPS Wildlife Tracking which, as a process, is a branch of environmental biology and potentially conservation management. Should any merge be deemed necessary, I feel it should be into an article on Wildlife Telemetry or Animal Telemetry in general. Steelwool (talk) 05:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Countermeasures against GPS trackers - original research or synthesis

Are there any available references for the material covered in this section? Would {{synthesis}} be a better tag? (sdsds - talk) 05:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)