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1 List of notable goalkeepers
2 Unjustly deleted material
3 Goalkeeper a must?
4 Goalkeeper organising
5 OMG

[edit] List of notable goalkeepers

I suggest that we nuke the list "Current notable goalkeepers" and "Notable Goalkeepers Of The Past". They are subjective lists with arbitrary inclusion criteria. We could replace them with a more authoritative list, has FIFA created such a list? Punkmorten 11:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I second that. What about the IFFHS 20 Keepers of the Century for the historical perspective and IFFHS' World's Best Goalkeeper of the Year for an annually updated list? UEFA has the UEFA Club Football Awards#Best Goalkeeper prize, but that is too Eurocentric. I don't know about FIFA, apart from the FIFA World Cup awards#Yashin Award and FIFA World Cup awards#All-Star Teams. Poulsen 11:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree as well. There are too many great goalkeepers to name, its better to stay neutral. I have added the direct link to the IFFHS page on the "Century's best goalkeeper"; the top 20 or 25 can be added in wiki format to replace the "Notable GK's of the past" list. As for the "Current notable goalkeepers" list, the IFFHS also has a worldwide yearly selection from 1987 to 2004, of which the winners can be included on a year-by year list. I am not sure if there is such selection before or after those years. The Yashin Award winners should also be mentioned or linked to. --ChaChaFut 17:36, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Good. By the way, is there any such list for female goalkeepers? Punkmorten 09:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Goalie is not just a US term.

[edit] Unjustly deleted material

This was recently deleted from the page after having been "stable" for a long time:

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In the Hong Kong martial arts/comedy Shaolin Soccer, "Team Evil" players are injected with an American serum that gives them superhuman strength and speed. Their goalie is very fast and has strong hands capable of crushing the thick metal crossbar on the net. He is the only person that is able to guard against the powerful kicks of "Mighty Steel Leg" Sing of "Team Shaolin", who can kick a beer can through a brick wall. The goalie of Team Shaolin resembles Bruce Lee and even wears the famous yellow-and-black tracksuit. He has superhuman speed and can simultaneously guard the goal against multiple kicks.

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Firstly, it's not trivia since it's a full paragraph and not a bullet-pointed sentence. I started the "In Media" section so others could add more movies dealing with soccer goalies. Even if people still consider it trivia, I read over the WP:TRIVIA and says "Don't simply remove trivia sections, but seek to integrate each fact into the article in a more organized fashion." So the info will be reintegrated into the page eventually. You can't argue with wikipedia guidelines. --Ghostexorcist 20:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goalkeeper a must?

The article states that “Each team is required to have a goalkeeper on the field at all times during a match. If a goalkeeper is forced to leave the field due to injury or being sent off, another player must occupy the post, even if the team has no substitute goalkeeper available and/or has used up its allotted substitutions.” I don't think this is entirely true, there is nothing in the laws of the games that says that having a goalkeeper is compulsory, it is common sense to have one at all times though. I would personally delete that sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PaddyC (talk • contribs) 03:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Goalkeeper organising

as I mentioned in Goalkeeper the sentence "Since goalkeepers can see every player on the field most of the time, they often organize the defense of the team during defensive corners, and defensive free kicks, as well as when the opposing team is attacking." is an strange statement.

This is a team sport and I do believe all players help each other all the time. If it means putting a wall at a free kick, this is a bit obvious, Soccer is a team sport and I think all the team do organise and help each other all the time, not really understand the sentence, and don't see the point of it being there, I still didn't delete it though, I'll let yous decide. Paddy :-) 03:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)