Talk:Georgiana Cavendish, Duchess of Devonshire
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page. | ||
| Start | This article has been rated as start-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ] | ||
 |
This article is supported by the Royalty and nobility work group. | ||
 |
An appropriate infobox may need to be added to this article, or the current infobox may need to be updated. Please refer to the list of biography infoboxes for further information. |
It's debatable whether this move I've just made - from "Georgiana Spencer" to "Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire" - is strictly in line with the naming conventions. Since she was married twice, a good case could be made for listing her under her maiden name. However, since the publication of Amanda Foreman's prize-winning biography, I believe most people will know her by this title, and that is why I've made the move (although of course there's still a redirect at "Georgiana Spencer".Deb 21:10 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Missing details
There seem to be lots of details missing from this article - like the fact that Georgiana wrote a novel, and also that she was the head of the fashionable Devonshire House Set, who created their own 'slanguage', which had an influence on literature. There also doesn't seem to be any mention of her eye troubles, or her illegitimate child who was farmed out to be raised elsewhere, or that she was a leader of fashion. I think these are probably important details to mention, will try to find references. - A New User 9 May 07
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.69.192.136 (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Corrected a fact
Georgiana was never divorced from her husband. I have updated the entry on her and Earl Grey to reflect that. Also added some other information, which may or may not be useful. A New User
[edit] Move?
Should the article be at Georgiana Cavendish, Duchess of Devonshire? john k 03:24, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I do not think so, Mr. Kenney, for the surnames of the wives of peers usually are not mentioned, except in genealogical records. --Anglius 01:41, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I believe it suffices well her to be at Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire. Why is any of her surnames needed in the heading??? 217.140.193.123 1 July 2005 10:38 (UTC)
It was more an effort to maintain consistency with other articles on peeresses than anything else. If we're going to move her back, I'd prefer that we come to some consensus on naming policy for peeresses, in general. (It should be noted that some peeresses, at least, are known by their married surname from the time before they inherited the title.) john k 1 July 2005 16:59 (UTC)
Let's see. Am I correct in believing that there is consensus and a STATED policy that male peers are basically firstname surname, ordinal title peeragename. ??? If so, then a peeress suo jure should also be firstname surname, ordinal title peeragename. (Is this already a policy?) Then, a nice thing to distinguish between peeresses suo jure and for example her daughter-in-law, the wife of the successor, would be a policy to deny the "surname" from peeresses by marriage: firstname, feminizedtitle peeragename.
Regarding peeresses by marriage who are famous already before husband's accession (is that a small number of women?), some of them apparently used the feminized courtesy title. Mostly only those whose husbands got ennobled after a career (both known by husband's surname) are the relevant group of persons whose famousness is both by husband's surname and later by husband's peerage. Well, my suggestion for those is that they get here the policy of "firstname, feminizedtitle peeragename" as heading, and the text explains the names in different stages of life, AND a redirect links from page Mrs "firstname surname". It's just too bad if someone wants the husband's surname - anyway the USED names of those persons are a mess of developments, because, after all, it changed when the husband got peerage, and it also had changed (though usually not from a famous one) when the woman married and took the husband's surname. 217.140.193.123 1 July 2005 20:45 (UTC)
We distinguish suo jure peeresses from ordinary peeresses by use of the ordinal. Personally, I don't see as it matters so long as we have a redirect. But I'd suggest proposing it on the names and titles page rather than trying to do it on a one by one basis. john k 1 July 2005 21:49 (UTC)
Note that the majority of links to this page are still coming via the old title. Deb 2 July 2005 20:01 (UTC)
