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Some of the original material which I translated (loosely, since I have little German) from German Wikipedia is showing up on a German-language July 20 Plot memorial website. I can't tell if that site is incoprorating material from Wikipedia, or the other way around, since neither cite their sources. I am going ahead and adding more information from library sources, which I hope to complete in the next few days.--Joe 03:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Peer Review

[edit] Topics

I still have a few more sources to incorporate, but I need some advice on issues I don't have the expertise or resources to investigate myself. Special topics for attention:

  1. Boeselager image - German copyright status? (see note on image discussion page)
  2. Copyright status of German article? (See note on discussion page, take a look at German article and Google some of its text)
  3. Oberst shoulder board - same or similar to WWII-era insignia, or do we need a new image? It's similar, but different enough that we should upload the correct image.
  4. "School for Shock Troops" in Krampintz. Currently it just links to Kriegschule - anyone know any sources for the specific school?
  5. Cavalry Regiments Centre - I can't find any sources for details on this, but both the German article and one of my library sources say it existed.

Thanks for any help or advice you can give! --Joe 19:00, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

I didn't know that template existed until your post. I kind of like the rank insignia portion and assignments sections, which add a nice touch, and as far as I know, there have been no films about him. And if the Poles get their own military template, then the Germans should too - we don't want to give them another war to fight, do we? --Joe 20:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually, we simply haven't gotten around to getting rid of the Polish one (plus, it rather predates the German, and is used on more articles). As far as I know, everything in this template can be done with the generic infobox; we're open to making changes if there's something specific it won't do for you. —Kirill Lokshin 20:48, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
If we can add rank insignia and assignments (some personnel are assigned to schools, activities etc. and not "units" sensu stricto) to the generic template or find a way to display them then I have no objections to deleting it. --Joe 20:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Rank insignia can be included by adding a regular [[Image:Insignia.jpg|100px]] to the "rank" field (although I would recommend using a horizontal insignia if possible). As far as his assignments, the name of the field can be changed to something more vague, but might it be appropriate to use the "commands" field instead of, or in addition to, the "unit" field? —Kirill Lokshin 21:01, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't help with those issues. Durova 23:25, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relations

Searching for "Boeselager" with Google, I found a "Maximilian Baron von Boeselager" (1907 - 1945) who reportedly fought in World War II and was killed in action. Were they related? See: http://www.thepeerage.com/p9895.htm

Since he was a noble, I was wondering if we can find some of his connections/relations among the German nobility. User:Dimadick

Must be a cousin. In the German system, with a few late exceptions made in imitation of the British honours system, all children of a noble inherited the father's title, so the titles Freiherr, Graf etc. tended to proliferate more widely than in Britain. --Joe 09:24, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Re-Review and In-line citations

Note: This article has a very small number of in-line citations for an article of its size and currently would not pass criteria 2b.
Members of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles are in the process of doing a re-review of current Good Article listings to ensure compliance with the standards of the Good Article Criteria. (Discussion of the changes and re-review can be found here). A significant change to the GA criteria is the mandatory use of some sort of in-line citation (In accordance to WP:CITE) to be used in order for an article to pass the verification and reference criteria. Currently this article does not include in-line citations. It is recommended that the article's editors take a look at the inclusion of in-line citations as well as how the article stacks up against the rest of the Good Article criteria. GA reviewers will give you at least a week's time from the date of this notice to work on the in-line citations before doing a full re-review and deciding if the article still merits being considered a Good Article or would need to be de-listed. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us on the Good Article project talk page or you may contact me personally. On behalf of the Good Articles Project, I want to thank you for all the time and effort that you have put into working on this article and improving the overall quality of the Wikipedia project. Agne 20:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I have made all the citations I can from my English-language sources; the rest was translated from the German Wikipedia article, which did not contain citations. I have recently found an English language source that avers von Boeselager was executed by the Nazis; this source does not cite its own source and I am not certain of its reliability. I have no objection to this article being removed from the "Good Article" category until the matter can be resolved. --Jpbrenna 05:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article Review

This article has been sent for review. 74.116.113.241 21:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article dispute

As per the Good Article review on this article, it has been delisted. Primarily, the cleanup thing probably should get done eventually, and comphrehensiveness might be a problem too. Dispute archived at Wikipedia:Good articles/Disputes/Archive 13. Homestarmy 19:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)