Talk:Georg Giese

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[edit] Speedy

What a speed of speedy tag ... seconds after article creation... ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 23:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

and before anyone thinks of tagging this for speedy deletion again, please note that having a portrait painted by Holbein is the 16th century equivalent of having a blockbuster Hollywood movie made about you, so the subject is definitely notable. Phil Bridger (talk) 00:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling of name - sz

I think the Polish form "Gisze" is more commonly used in English, or at least it is for the Holbein painting, so shouldn't that be used in the article title? I notice that even German Wikipedia uses "Gisze", so it would would be strange if we used the German form of the name even when the Germans themselves don't. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, here it is Giese in the links, on german wiki it is Gisze. Hard to solve. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 23:58, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Tulkolahten, Phil Bridger,the old German spelling of words used sz or cz, sample Modern German: Hitze (heat) was spelled Hiczcze. M German Blitz (thunder) bliczcze etc. Gisze is the old German spelling and the same name today is spelled Giese. The German letter 'ß' is pronounced es zet =sz and instead of ß often spellen sz or ss (sample: groß or gross or grosz = great, big, grand) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.137.206.167 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 21 November 2007

The German and the Spanish article focus(sed) on the nearly 500 year old painting, and use(d) part of the non-yet-standard spelling given by Holbein, visible on the received letter addressed to „Dem Erszamen/Jorgen gisze to lunden/in engelant mynem/broder to handen“, which means „To the honourable Jorgen gisze at London in England, my brother, to (the attention of his) hands“. The person itself is, like his relative Tiedemann Giese and Albrecht Giese, spelled Giese, which is a common name nowadays. -- Matthead ^discuß!     O       05:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)