Talk:Generation of Youth for Christ
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[edit] Previously deleted page
I just realised that this article was previously deleted, under the title "General Youth Conference", which I just added as a redirect. I believe it is notable, and neutrally worded now. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 02:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- Without speaking to notability, I think there may reamain here issues with weasel words and with bias. I can offer a couple of examples. If I knew more about the topic, I would try to clean this up myself, but my knowledge is limited, and I'm not finding (in a cursory search) much good source material.
- Regarding weasel words, the fourth paragraph includes this sentence: "However, the growth of GYC has also been greeted with opposition and criticism." Readers are not told by whom, when, or in what form. Following: "Often, a lack of accurate information has led to a misunderstanding, if not a deliberate misinformation, about GYC in certain quarters of the church." What misunderstanding(s)? What misinformation, and how is it known to be deliberate? Which "quarters of the church"? Finally, "Similarly, those who have reasons to oppose what GYC stands for have tried to exploit this lack of knowledge to discredit the movement and all those known to be associated with GYC." Who so opposes? What are their reasons? How have they "tried to exploit" the ignorance? How are these attempts known?
- Regarding bias, the first and third opening paragraphs provide a number of examples in the use of terms such as "thriving," "radically," "life-transforming," "unique," and "serious." If these words were quotations or paraphrases, it would be easy to understand their context. As they stand, they sound like advertisement or promotion. —SkipperPilot (talk) 17:09, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- It turns out that the Wikipedia word I was looking for, in talking about bias, was "peacock terms." —SkipperPilot (talk) 19:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Hi SkipperPilot, I agree with you. these recent edits were made just before you added the "weasel" banner. In my opinion there was much helpful material (although unsourced or sourced from the primary source of the group's own website), and unhelpful too. Please, be bold and do some heavy editing. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 04:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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- I've made a few edits as well as moving the discussion of growing pains to its own section. Still haven't included any "hard" sources. Ekoester (talk) 14:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
This page lacks sufficient in article citations.
This page lacks neutrality, and reads more like an advertisement.
"Since its first official conference in 2002, GYC has provided teaching and training along side real-life opportunities for service. This has proven a winning combination among young people serious about whole-hearted service to Christ and his world."
Wiki Articles must maintain Neutrality. They must report only fact pertinent to an Encyclopedic article.
"Christian leaders and laypeople alike agree that youth ministry is a top priority. What is not so clear is how to do it most effectively. An unknown author once described a fitting analogy, "If a large group of young people were to find themselves stationed in a lush tropical paradise at the foot of a rugged mountain it is only natural that some would soon tire of the comfortable existence at the bottom and seek to conquer the towering peak above." Are youth best reached at the base of the mountain, surrounded by the comforts and realities of modern life? Or are they to be "called up higher" with the expectation that if given the proper equipment and training they will reach the peak of usefulness to Christ and the church?"
In example th following passage reads like an essay. Questions have no place in an Encyclopedia entry.
These are but a few of the most glaring errors.
I encourage anyone interested in this article to please visit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_contributors%27_help_page
If Wiki standards are not met this article will be flagged for deletion.
machghostine 4-14-2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Machghostine (talk • contribs) 19:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
