Talk:Gary Valenciano

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[edit] Citizenship

While I accept the fact that Gary Valenciano is a talented musician with half Filipino blood in him (the other half is Puerto-Rican I think), I still would like to confirm his Filipino citizenship. As far as I know, he holds a Puerto Rican citizenship. If this were true, then I think that the other artists who are true-blue Filipino (both by blood and nationality) should be pictured in the article. We have hundreds of them like Ogie Alcasid, Freddie Aguilar, Sampaguita and others who are equally popular and Filipinos through and through.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacamuela (talk • contribs)

Gary V. was born in the Philippines, so yes, he's a citizen. I do not know how he cannot be more or less true-blue Filipino than the other Filipinos in the set of pictures. President Aquino's maiden name is Cojuangco, hence she's Chinese. And José Rizal is of Spanish & Chinese descent. The pics are left as they are as they are meant to convey Filipinos from different backgrounds. --Chris S. 03:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Unlike the US, the Philippines follows the principle of jus sanguinis (in case you don't know). Well, I was just wondering because I remember that in one TV news in the Philippines, he was questioned about his citizenship because his mother, Grimilda Ortiz, was Puerto-Rican(http://indie.imdb.com/name/nm1347688/bio) and he opted to be a Puerto-Rican citizen which could grant him a US citizenship if his mother chose to become a US citizen (by virtue of the 1940 US Nationality act, expanding the applicability of the United States jus soli rule to Puerto Rico) because that time, dual citizenship was not allowed under Philippine laws. Unless Gary Valenciano makes a public statement that he is a Filipino citizen, then this issue will not die down. The other Filipinos in the picture are without a doubt, Filipino citizens. Jose Rizal and Corazon Cojuangco Aquino have almost the same background (Filipino-Chinese-Spanish).—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacamuela (talk • contribs)
He would not tell the world he is Filipino because he would be embarresed. There are very few half asian stars that would, because everyone knows that asians including Filipinos, Chinese, Indians are not desireable in western media.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.6.138.35 (talk)
(responding to User:Sacamuela, above) (I followed this discussion over here from its previous location in Talk:Filipino people) The statement, "that time, dual citizenship was not allowed under Philippine law" is a misleadingly vast oversimplification (see [1]). I note that this Gary Valenciano article does not mention who his father was, and does not mention the nationality of his father. It does say that he (Gary) was born in the Philippines to a Puerto-Rican mother. His IMDB Bio identifies his father as ""Filipino Paolo Valenciano." (this WP article probably ought ot include this info). Presuming that his mother was a US citizen (as most Puerto-Ricans are), he would probably have been a US citizen at birth, or at least eligible to claim US citizenship. I am a bit vague about the 1943 RP constitution, but my impression is that the RP reverted to the 1935 constitution after WW-II. Regarding Philippine nationality law, as I understand it, and presuming that the Citizenship provisions of the 1935 constitution were in effect on his 1964 birth date, if his father was a citizen of the Philippines he would have been a natural-born RP citizen at the time of his birth and, though a dual US/RP citizen, would not have been required under RP law to elect Philippine citizenship upon reaching the age of majority. Thus, it appears to me as if he is a natural-born citizen both of the RP and of the US. -- Boracay Bill 03:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)