Talk:G20 industrial nations

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[edit] The Map

There are some areas wrongly painted: Balearic Islands are in dark-blue but they belong to Spain, which is light-blue. Almost all the islands in the Aegean Sea belong to Greece, not Turkey, so they should be painted in light-blue. Cyprus is an EU state, so it should be painted in light blue because it is neither in the G20 nor does it belong to Turkey. The Islas Canarias belong to Spain. The Açores belong to Portugal. The Falklands belong to the UK, Nouvelle Caledonie belongs to France. Same goes for Martinique, Guadeloupe, the la Guyane Française etc etc. All these territories should be painted accordingly. 3 june 2007, 16:02 UTC

[edit] Missing Countries

These countries are the regional powers and I think this list is missing Spain and Egypt.

[edit] Not being bias

Calling certain people "fatcats" is a VALUE-JUDGEMENT, and hence is not allowed.

Claiming that said organization is ruining the third world without citations (let alone citations from unbiased sources) is unsubstantiated, and therefore personal opinion, and wikipedia does not allow that. (Madrone 18:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] NPOV: Influence Section

Removing massive amounts of biased and rants and trying to summarize its points in a "Criticism section" If ppeople add criticims please CITE YOUR SOURCES, as most criticisms tend to be PERSONAL OPINIONS or a soapbox. Wikipedia does not allow Original Research (saying what you think basically) (Madrone 06:19, 22 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] G20 summits

Why not give details about each G20 summit. The one in Ottawa in 2001 was very eventful but does thsis belong on this page or should there be a separate page for each summit?--Fredmaack 08:59, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Feel free to do it. --Cat out 13:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Number of countries

Is something missing? I only see 19 nations. --Cat out 13:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

  • For some reason, both Argentina and Australia are listed as 1. on the list. SKC 02:38 (UTC)

[edit] Norway

It is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, but not within the EU. Has anybody got an explanation as to why its not on the list?

  • The most literal answer would be that it's not on the list because it's not in the G-20, in the same way that a list of All-Star sports players might only list those formally selected for the All-Star Game (disclaiming, of course, any implication that larger economies are "better"). Going a bit further, I would agree that it's "one of the wealthiest countries", just not one of the 19 largest economies. As of 2005, it's listed at #25: List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal). Kime1R 01:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Saudi Arabia?

Saudi Arabia is mentioned as a member in the article text but is missing in the image. Please reconcile. --74.132.201.173 22:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Norway?

Norway is at the number 25th of largest economy's in the world... Thats more then several countries on the list... Why aren't Norway at the list?

25 Norway 295,672

26 Indonesia 281,264

28 South Africa 239,419 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.108.226.234 (talk) 18:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Again, this page doesn't describe "the 20 largest economies in the world", it describes "the G20 industrial nations", a specific group of 19 countries + the EU. Norway isn't on the list because it's not in the G20. The real question, then, is why isn't Norway in the G20. Taking from the G20 website:

What are the criteria for G-20 membership? In a forum such as the G-20, it is particularly important for the number of countries involved to be restricted and fixed to ensure the effectiveness and continuity of its activity. There are no formal criteria for G-20 membership and the composition of the group has remained unchanged since it was established. In view of the objectives of the G-20, it was considered important that countries and regions of systemic significance for the international financial system be included. Aspects such as geographical balance and population representation also played a major part.

As of the current wikipedia List of countries by GDP (nominal), Indonesia is a larger economy by both the IMF and World Bank measurements. It's also the 4th most populous nation in the world, and one of only two Australia/Oceania countries in the G20.
South Africa is the largest economy in Africa, and the only African nation in the G20.
In each of these cases, one may suspect that the "geographical balance" factor indeed "played a major part", and "population representation" may have also influenced the inclusion of Indonesia.
In contrast, Norway is about number 14 on the List_of_European_countries_by_GDP and 26 on the List_of_European_countries_by_population. Considering that the G20 has 4-6 other individual European countries (depending on how you count Russia and Turkey) and the EU in it, it would seem that Europe is fairly well represented in the G20.
Furthermore, considering that Switzerland has a larger economy than Norway, and is also not in the EU, it would seem that they would be higher up on the waiting list, if you will, than Norway.
Kime1R 01:20, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2010: Auckland, New Zealand

Why would New Zealand host the talks being as they aren't a member? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brob (talk • contribs) 02:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)