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[edit] Uncited Material

There's a fair bit of uncited material in this article, and it is my intention to work to improve that. Soon, I will be working on removing uncited material and searching for citations for said material. By Wikipedia:Verifiability, "Information on Wikipedia must be reliable. Facts, viewpoints, theories, and arguments may only be included in articles if they have already been published by reliable and reputable sources. Articles should cite these sources whenever possible. Any unsourced material may be challenged and removed." Please contribute by working to provide citations for material in this article. I will also be working on Clemson University and University of South Carolina soon as well. Thank you. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 15:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Faculty

Everyone on the faculty is notable for one reason or another. We all love(d) our professors. But the "Notable Faculty" section is reserved for particularly notable faculty. This, of course, is a judgment call. There are no simple lines that separate the particularly notable from the all around good profs. Think about who would be notable to the objective reader. Please add names accordingly, as the skeptical eyes of Wikipedia are now (and always) upon you (and me). LegalSwoop 06:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

The following professors have been removed from the "Notable Faculty" section (not because they aren't awesome professors, but because they aren't objectively noteworthy):

  • Brent Nelsen - Political Science
  • David Rutledge - Religion
  • A. Scott Henderson - Education

LegalSwoop 21:33, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Glen Halva-Neubauer - Political Science
  • Noel Kane-Maguire - Chemistry
  • Thomas Kazee - Political Science
  • Mark Kilstofte - Music
  • Lon Knight Jr. - Chemistry
  • Willard Pate - English

LegalSwoop 21:40, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Judith Grisel - Psychology
  • Jim Guth - Political Science
  • Charles Arrington - Chemistry
  • T. Lloyd Benson - History

LegalSwoop 21:46, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, Mark Kilstofte won the Prix de Rome a few years back, which puts him in fairly good company. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 00:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
It appears that he won the Prix de Rome of the American Academy in Rome for 2002-2003, which is different. Wikipedia describes the prize as "prestigious." This may be the threshold of notability. I'm grappling with what constitutes notability in this context. For the time being, I'll put him back in the article with a mention of his prize. (Oh, and I saw the not you left me on my user page but I'm not sure how exactly to send a message in response!) LegalSwoop 01:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
You can reply to notes either on your Talk page (I think I have yours watched), or if you want to be sure the other person sees it you can post to the other persons Talk page. You can get to my Talk page by clicking on the little Burn! on my signature. As far as Kilstofte, I don't really care either way, and I don't know much about what prize he won or not, I just know he won that. Thanks for your good work on the article! Ëvilphoenix Burn! 03:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm sort of new to Wikipedia, I'm a current music theory major at Furman. I linked Kilstofte's page as well as the Prix de Rome. But I was wondering why David Gross is listed as notable faculty as well. Is there some reason I don't know about for this? --Goodmanjaz 21:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Laura Wright - Chemistry

LegalSwoop 07:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

why is steppen murphy notable???

[edit] Comparable schools

Lately there have been some "comparable schools" added which are of dubious comparability. Assuming that the "comparable schools" section is desirable in this article, there are at least a few schools on this list that I would not consider comparable:

  • Grinnell College - In the midwest, different campus setting, a thousand fewer students, triple the endowment of Furman, much higher USNWR ranking.
  • University of Richmond - Significant post-graduate enrollment, much larger endowment, arguably in a different region (though Virginia is still the South).
  • Mercer University - Signigicant post-graduate enrollment, double the undergraduate population, different campus setting.
  • Wake Forest University - Significant post-graduate enrollment, 1,500 more undergrads, a "National University" according to USNWR (contra Furman, "Liberal Arts").

Therefore move to delete these schools from the list. Alternatively, and more importantly, I move that the entire section be deleted for the following reasons:

  • Determining comparable schools is a subjective evaluation.
  • The value of knowing comparable schools is questionable, as it is given in a list without exposition on the similarities and differences.
  • The "comparability" of the schools cannot be cited (see above).
  • Most importantly, none of the "comparable schools" has a comparable schools section.

If there are no objections, I will remove this section in a few days. LegalSwoop 17:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

The section has been deleted. LegalSwoop 14:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bell Tower Photo

Can someone please put up another picture other than one of the belltower under renovation

I would put one up if I had one. Copyright restrictions prohibit us from throwing just any old picture up there. LegalSwoop 02:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Is this any better? Anet12

[edit] Football corrections

I did this when I wasn't logged in - forgot.

The NCAA nomenclature for football uses Roman numerals, not Arabic, so it is I-AA, not 1-AA.

Also, Lehigh University (a private school) was in the National Championship game in 1979 and lost.

[edit] Notable Alumni

Shouldn't the list of notable alumni be alphabetical? I have reverted the edits of Luzyfer to re-establish the alphabetic order of the notable Alumni. Or is there some other method of organization that I am missing? Tlmclain 21:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Southern Baptist Convention

The category proposed by Special:Contributions/66.140.196.35, Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention seems rather broad. Although Furman was for many years under the umbrella of the SBC, they have not been for 15 years or so. The name of the category suggests a current affiliation; the category's heading cites the Southern Baptist Convention's list of colleges on their web site, of which Furman is not included. Is there some sort of consensus on this category? Goodmanjaz 22:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Furman was affiliated with the SBC until 1992 or so, at which point they disaffiliatied with that organization. I have removed the category link. --156.143.93.99 17:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC) KeplerNiko

[edit] Notable Alumni - National Scholarship Winners

Yesterday, LaszloWalrus deleted a subsection of Notable Alumni entitled National Scholarship Winners, explaining, "winning a Rhodes Scholarship does not ipso facto make one notable." While I generally agree with this point, the fact that Furman University has had a number of individuals who have won national scholarships is notable. Moreover, some of the people noted may indeed be notable. In order to assist those interested in continuing to improve the article on Furman University, I have preserved the deleted text and references by moving it here to the talk page. --Tlmclain | Talk 16:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Fulbright Scholars - David Bumpass, Travis Hinkle, Megan Hundley, David M. Johnson, Christine Lawton, Alicia Leerssen, Stuart Rentz, Charles Sharpe
  • Barry M. Goldwater Scholarships[1] - Hans Bechtel, Derek Bruff, Jer-Chin "Luke" Chuang, Ginger Denison, John Dickson, Angela Hicks, Sarah Klapman, Erik Madsen, Scott P. Martin, Jess Riddle, Brittany Smith, Michelle Stewart, Mark Turlington, Michael Vagnini, Andrew M. Watkins
  • Luce Scholars[2] - Cass DuRant
  • James Madison Memorial Fellowship[3] - Tripp Jeffers
  • Andrew W. Mellon Fellowships in Humanistic Studies[4] - Craig Caldwell, Chris Palmer
  • George J. Mitchell Scholarship - Monica Bell, Hal Frampton, Jennifer Lambert
  • NCAA Postgraduate Scholarship[5] - Rebekah Potts
  • NSF Graduate Research Fellowship[6] - Hans Bechtel, Maggie Dossett, Jennifer Fox, Marion Martin, Ginger Turpin
  • Rhodes Scholarship - Robert W. Johnson
  • Rotary Scholarships - Anna Cox, Will Doerner, Felice Fergurson, Karen Guth, Elaine Kelly, Anna Lang, Jacob Schroeder, Sarah Scopel
  • Truman Scholarships - Monica Bell, Tomiko Brown, Brian Cromer, Ginger Denison, Beth Dotson, Cass DuRant, Adair Ford, Hal Frampton, Lewis Gossett, Mary Lee James, Jennifer Lambert, Chong Lo, Arianna McLain, Amy Powers, Eric Spitler, Lisa Stevens, Carrie Thompson, Lindsay Woolf
  • Morris K. Udall Foundation - Adrienne DuBois, Kartikeya Singh

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Furman Wordmark.gif

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)