Talk:Fußball-Bundesliga

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The whole thing is a faboulouse piece of patchwork showing its evolutionary origins, but not really the evolutionary origin of the the Bundesliga.

Where to begin the repair? Scrap it and start anew. Third Reich and GDR stuff, etc., is not really at home here. Give it its own pads.

As this is the Wikipedia, I suppose I have to do it all myself.

Any opinions out there?

Oalexander-En 17:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. There is some decent content here and the thing is readable.

What I think it does need (and I've felt this way for a while) is to be turned into a page more generally about the history of German football (where the material about the Third Reich and GDR would be more at home) with a separate page more tightly focused on the Bundesliga itself. It's got to be readable and approachable for all users, not just for extreme Bundesliga fanatics.

As to your suggestions that the whole thing be scraped, that's a little over the top. And it's not particularly noble to "have to do it all yourself". Wikipedia is by its nature collaborative and it would be helpful to recognize that. Wiggy! 18:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fußball-Bundesliga

I do understand that it's desirable to not use the ß-character, but Fussball is simply wrong orthography. The title of the article should be Fußball-Bundesliga, and a redirect should be in place for those who use two s. Opinions, anyone? If you agree, feel free to move it back. Madcynic 19:37, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

No, it isn't "wrong orthography". Not in English. It is perfectly legitimate to use the English alphabet when writing in English, and furthermore, the ß is one almost never used in English writing. This is the English Wikipedia, not the Greman Wikipedia. Gene Nygaard (talk) 16:25, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, of course it's not wrong in English. But as this is a page on the German first flight association football league which happens to be called Fußball-Bundesliga, the ß is a necessary character. Besides, this is exactly how it is done with other articles having "undesirable" characters... --Madcynic (talk) 17:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

But ß is not a character used in the English language and is not on most English language keyboard layouts. Per naming conventions, article titles should be in English. Beeblbrox (talk) 21:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Following that argument, the article should be named Football Federal League. Lars T. (talk) 23:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC)