Talk:Frightened Rabbit

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It's a band on a major record label, just like any other band on this site. It's first album has been reviewed by a notable source, All Music Guide.

It will also be meeting the criterion for international tour this month. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Machtspruch (talk • contribs) 03:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Universal

I'm not sure how to cast the relationship with Universal. I gather they just re-pressed & distributed the record. I don't think the band was signed per se, so on is not accurate. It would be nice to find a source describing the deal. Wwwhatsup 00:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah. I now see from the Pop Shop interview that the deal with Universal was never fully consumated.Wwwhatsup 01:45, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The band do not own Hits The Fans... so it's not "their own label". and the album was never put out or distributed by Universal, nor was the band ever signed to Universal. I've deleted both of pieces of information because they are patently untrue. just because it says something on AllMusic doesn't mean it's true.

162.84.233.39 (talk) 06:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)chris162.84.233.39 (talk) 06:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, the way that things go on Wikipedia is that, if you are going to revert a fact, you'd best come up with your own citation, hopefully from an authoritative source, to counter it. As it is, I checked that Amazon listed the record as an Universal release [1] before writing that copy. I'll accept that that does not evidence Universal distribution in the UK. But I'm going to revert your edit to that extent.

It is, in fact, a point of notability that merits the band's inclusion in Wikipedia, that they have had major label distribution.

Wwwhatsup (talk) 07:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Universal information is just completely incorrect. Amazon/All Music Guide / whatever for whatever reason is just wrong. I can't find a notation for something that *doesn't* exist. i'm not in the band, so... no COI. but... if the information is wrong, it shouldn't be up there. i'm sure you're a fan of the band, as am i... but i do know the band, and i know that the Universal deal was never done (it wasn't really universal, it was Fiction). i'm going to edit the line again and see what happens. 162.84.233.39 (talk) 17:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)chris162.84.233.39 (talk) 17:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

We know that they didn't sign to Universal. But, as I understand it, that was a lengthy negotiation subsequent to the one-off distribution deal. It's like they were dating and decided not to get married. Fiction is a UK subsidiary of Universal. Amazon would not list it as Universal unless that was where they were getting it from. The fact that their site still has copies for sale validates the record's existence. How else would they have any? I have to revert your edit as it's uncited [[WP:OR|OR] that contradicts two good cites for Universal distribution. Wwwhatsup (talk) 00:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

here's yet more evidence. The record was distributed by 'genepool/Universal Music'. Wwwhatsup (talk) 00:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

i'm sorry, but... this is just WRONG. genepool is an indie distributor in the UK... a one-stop, in american parlance. it is not owned by Universal, nor is it a partner... that's like saying the new record is distributed by EMI (since EMI owns Caroline, and FatCat is distributed by EMI.) Clearly, one of two things happened: Universal picked up a few copies of the record via Genepool and got them online, or somewhere there's just a typo. Since less than 400 copies of the Hits The Fans record were sold via traditional distribution, i find it hard to believe the record was "distributed by universal" Check out the Genepool website: http://www.genepooldistribution.com/genepooldistribution.html : it's a tiny tiny distro. there's one fiction band in there that i've never heard of. i don't know... i don't really care, but... i think you're doing the band and its fans a disservice by continuing to put forth incorrect data, even if it is "cited". it pains me to see it up there. it makes it seem like the band were dropped or something. anyway, even if it were correct, it's not very useful or important information. anyway... i'm not going to change it back, because clearly it's somehow really important to you that this information stays on the site. 162.84.233.39 (talk) 17:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)chris162.84.233.39 (talk) 17:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Review suggestion

As an editor at Crawdaddy!, and to comply with COI guidelines, I am not posting the link to this review. However, I would like to recommend it on its merits, and hope that an editor will find the time to examine the review and—if he or she sees fit—post it as a link, or, if/when a page is created for The Midnight Organ Fight, post it as a review. I appreciate your time. Crawdaddy (favorable) 2008
Asst. Editor, Crawdaddy! FenderRhodesScholar | Talk 22:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)