Talk:French New Wave

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Contents 1 Page Name Move 2 list of filmmakers/artists 3 B-film directors 4 Origins

[edit] Page Name Move

I've moved this page from "French new wave" to "French New Wave," as a proper name almost invariably capitalized in sources (e.g. the top four google hits for "French New Wave": 1, 2, 3, 4). I'll also be fixing it in corresponding articles. --Dvyost 04:16, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] list of filmmakers/artists

This article could obviously benefit from a list of major (and minor) directors of the nouvelle vague, including but hardly limited to: Godard, Truffaut, Rivette, Chabrol, Rohmer, Malle, Resnais, Varda, Demy, Marker, Aubier, etc., etc.

I also see benefit from another list of frequent collaborators and influences, especially actors, like Anna Karina, Jean-Paul Belmondo, Eddie Constantine, Jean-Pierre Leaud, etc.

And where is mention of Andre Bazin in this article? Jean pierre jeunet came off the back of the 80's new wave crowd didn't he?132.185.144.123 (talk) 12:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd do it myself but I can't remember enough film history to get it right. --Andymussell 03:17, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Marker, Resnais, and Varda were part of the Left Bank group, which consisted generally of older filmmakers and was not considered part of the nouvelle vague at the time. A list of actors would by a good idea, though, as many of them were as symbolic as any director. Deleuze 05:21, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Just made assorted additions to the entry including an exploration of the film techniques of nouvelle vague, and origins of the movement. I hope people will add more significant figures to the tiny list of filmmakers/artists; it's a start!Jmodel 05:28, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I tried to clean up the "controversial" section on the influence the new wave had on modern cinema. In so doing, I also added some actor names. Please feel free to flag it again if I didn't clean up the previous line properly. Also, I had to erase the entire paragraph on the avant-garde because it was just too much of a mess. LonesomeCowboyBill 22:00, 13 September 2006.

How are we deciding who is major and who is minor? If they must be divided, Left and Right Bank would make more sense. Pianoshootist 15:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] B-film directors

The article states that Charles Chaplin, Alfred Hitchcock, and Orson Welles were B directors that the Cahiers admired, but I highly doubt that Hitchcock and Chaplin would be considered B directors. Maybe Orson Welles during the latter part of his career could be considered one, but Hitchcock and Chaplin were considerably popular with a mainstream audience and Hitchcock would often use such stars as Cary Grant, Ingrid Bergman, and Jimmy Stewart, so I would hardly consider him a B director. And Charlie Chaplin is one of the most recognizable, if not the most recognizable, stars of all time, and was highly popular in his day...and still is, for that matter. So I would hardly consider him and Hitch B filmmakers. I think a revision's required here. 4.155.102.1 02:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origins

Shouldn't the Origins section include some reference to where the term Nouvelle Vague actully came from? On the French page of this article it says it originated in L'Express in an article by Françoise Giroud on 3 October 1957. But can wikipedia in other languages be used as a source? Em Mitchell 08:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think, after watching Stanley Kubrick's film "Killer's Kiss", which recieved international distribution, we need to consider it as the origin of the New Wave. Kubrick's external nighttime shots, his use of hand-held cameras, after-dubbing of sound, surrealist shadows and camera angles, street scenes, disregard for cinemtic conventions and low-budget feel, all predate the New Wave and, I'm sure, were a major influence on it. You can also see its influence on Fellini's films. Killer's Kiss is a hidden masterpiece. [[[Special:Contributions/71.2.169.101|71.2.169.101]] (talk) 18:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Tim Lewis]