Talk:Freak
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This page has now been updated from the starting file, a redirecting link to the article "Freak Show".LunarMoon 22:38, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Article cleanup
Have cleaned up article but work still has to be done on Naturaul freaks and made freaks.
Work is needed on the first sentence as well. The first sentence should be a consice definition. Bertus 13:53, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== See also "malaprop" reference to "Freaks and Geeks" is a bit inappropriate following the Napoleon Dynamite example. N.D. definitely fits into the "geeks" portion of the F&G cast. "Freaks" in the TV show's title refered to Lindsay's new friends, the alienated stoners (as opposed to her brother's friends, the alienated nerds).
Judd Apatow's use of "freak" in that sense was not novel, of course, as anyone who's ever seen a copy of The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers can attest. "Freak" as a synonym for "heads" was intended to be highly insulting, but was co-opted (as most slanderous labels eventually are) and soon hippie-types were encouraging one another to "let your freak flag fly".
On the other hand, the use of the phrase "solar ellipses" later on the page is beautiful and should be kept.
Edited out some obvious attempts at defamation - cyberliche 4:20pm EST 9/11/06
[edit] made freak
We need a few examples of 'made freaks'.
Added Marilyn Manson to this section and also a photo of my own self for a visual example - Agent70845 - 5:32pm +10GMT 24/11/2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent708145 (talk • contribs) 07:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cleaned up
I've done a general rewrite and clean-up + provided more examples.
[edit] Sex Reassignment Surgery
Why are transsexuals being used as examples of "freaks"? This seems highly offensive and insensitive. I can't imagine it being okay for any other minority or group being used so casually in this context. Not to mention, this is a recognized medical condition, not some kind of social rebellion like piercings, tattoos, etc. I really think this section needs removed completely.
From the article: "the word freak is used to refer a person with an unusual personality", "used when referring to mutations", "an insulting term for an organism with an abnormality of some kind", "a human freak is someone who does not fall into standard deviations", "a human freak is someone who does not fall into standard deviations"
Sounds like pretty good descriptions of transsexuals. I have no problem with transsexuals, as I have several friends who are transsexuals. But I, and they themselves, wouldn't describe them as normal, and they take no offense at being called freaks.
- How can you say we take no offense at being called freaks? I am transsexual and take great offense at being called a freak. MykellM 03:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
"A natural freak would, supposedly, be a mutant and a made freak would be one who, though not born abnormally, experienced or caused a deliberate change sometime during their life (such as having surgical implants inserted)."
Now, is a transsexual a natural or a made freak? I guess the fact that they are transsexuals means they are natural, and that they undergo surgery makes them made freaks. It is a mutation away from the norm of life to choose surgery over the ability to procreate. Embrace your inner freak! :-)
[edit] A "freak" is not a "friki"
I'm removing the links to the Spanish, Catalan and Galician language articles for the word "friki" because, whereas it's true it was borrowed from the "freak" word in English, this word is actually no more than a false friend and doesn't share a meaning with the latter. Gothbag (talk) 12:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
