Category talk:French Revolution figures
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I find the current set of subcategories here to be a disaster. These people are not mainly significant for how they died. But look at these subcategories:
- Category:Guillotined French Revolution figures
- Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars
- Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars killed in battle
- Category:Murdered French Revolution figures
- Category:Napoleonic wars French commanders
- Category:Napoleonic wars French commanders killed in battle
- Category:Executed Napoleonic wars French commanders
All but two of these are about mode of death; also, two of these are clearly subcategories of other subcategories given here (e.g. Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars killed in battle should clearly be a subcategory of Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars, not of Category:French Revolution figures.
The main problem here is that we are mixing two independent variables: role in the revolution and mode of death.
If these categories are going to remain, we should have:
- Category:French Revolution figures
- Category:French Revolution figures by mode of death
- Category:Guillotined French Revolution figures
- Category:French Revolution figures killed in battle
- etc.
- Category:French Revolution figures by role in the Revolution
- Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars
- Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars killed in battle (also subordinate to Category:French Revolution figures killed in battle)
- etc.
- Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars
- Category:French Revolution figures by mode of death
Think of the poor user! He (or she, but let's say he) is trying to look up the leaders of the various legislatures during the revolution. He comes here. He has to look for them by way of knowing how each of them died. And he can't find a clue here to the fact that they were political leaders, which is what made them important enough to merit an article in the first place! -- Jmabel | Talk 00:44, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
- I am going to have to agree. I am not opposed to placing articles in a category and a sub-category as a rule but here I think we have what I would call: Sub-categories that should really be lists. That way the we can put the lists in this category and the articles and its all there and easy to navigate. I (and lots of other people) wrote some ideas about this over at Wikipedia talk:Categorization, I did not mention lists in my comments but maybe I will add somethign. It is in intresting problem in anyevent. Dalf | Talk 01:39, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I support turning these subcats into a list (or two). Perhaps List of French Revolution figures by method of death? (guillotine/murder/battle/old age/etc.... similar to what was suggested above) Right now Marie Antoinette is wiki-categorized as a "Guillotined French Revolution figure". That just sounds absurd.
- - Pioneer-12 22:26, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

