Talk:Francis of Spain

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"Francis of Asis de Bourbon" is horrible. Francis is English; Asis is Spanish; de Bourbon is French. Nobody could pretend that this is how he is generally referred to in English works. Having complained, however, I'm at a loss in determining what would be best. Noel S McFerran 12:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Since he was a king-consort, I think Francis de Asis of Spain would be acceptable. Was he truly ennumerated? Charles 21:03, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Gah. If we're translating, translate the whole given name at least: Francis of Assisi de Bourbon. - Montréalais 01:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I think using de in front of the second part of his first name would be an acceptable solution. Charles 02:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

There is a mistake. This king was a king consort, husband of the reigning Queen, Isabella the Second of Spain, therefore his name hasn't got the ordinal I. The next king named Francis would have to be Francis the First (Francisco I), if he is not a king consort.

Ferdinand V was a king-consort, and is counted in the numbering. So is Philip I. At any rate, I think he should clearly be "Francisco" - I don't think I've ever seen him referred to as "Francis". john k 23:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Ferdinand V and Philip I were not kings consort - they were jure uxoris monarchs and that's why they are counted in the numbering. Kings consort (as well as queens consort) are not counted in numbering and they are not considered monarchs. It seems that only husbands of medieval queens became jure uxoris kings. Thus, this man should be called Francis de Asis de Bourbon (or something like that) because Francis of Spain is not correct. Surtsicna (talk) 22:18, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Why isn't Francis of Spain correct? Is that not the name he was entitled to by birth and as a consort? Charles 22:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)