Talk:Francesco Guicciardini

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[edit] Source for list of works

Source for list of works: http://www.filosofico.net/guicciardini.htm


[edit] The Invasions of Italy 1494-1527 Machiavelli and Guicciardini

http://vlib.iue.it/carrie/texts/carrie_books/gilbert/04.html

In 1530 he wrote his unfinished Considerations on the Discourses of Machiavelli, in which he took Machiavelli to task for exaggeration and overstatement and for his tendency to derive general laws from specific instances. Guicciardini preferred to examine carefully each case, being more distrustful of large generalizations. This insistence on the specific, particular, and individual is one of the qualities that make him a great historian. In this field he is even superior to Machiavelli and deserves to be called the first modern historian. His historical writings, particularly the History of Italy, opened a new era in historiography. No earlier historian had based his account so thoroughly on documentary sources. He strove always for the highest possible accuracy. But this alone was not enough; he also searched for underlying causes. These he found in human motivations, and he was skilled in examining the motives of his narrative's principal actors. Leaders100 17:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV of the article

This article seems to lack NPOV. It makes strong claims about the moral values of Guicciardini, which do not seems appropriate to me for a NPOV article. Am I correct ? pibizza 08:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, this arises because the article is based on the 1911 Britannica, which is full of personal opinions and lacks NPOV. Charles Matthews 08:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The personal judgements passed by the author of this article seem wholly innapropriate - much of the evaluation section should be edited in the interst of objectivity

perhaps some mention should be made of the fortuna/virtu dialectic? Guiciardini's view of fortuna as implacable and ruthless is worthy of note - 'how mutable are human affairs; not unlike a sea whipped by winds'

The article, as it is, based on EB1911, should be linked in the External Links section to the original along with an attribution of who wrote it. The Wikipedia article should be started over from scratch written with a modern perspective and original content. -- 71.191.36.194 17:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] copyviol?

While looking for more particulars about Francesco Guicciardini, I found this site http://www.informationdelight.info/encyclopedia/entry/Francesco_Guicciardini which looks remarkably similar to the text in wikipedia. Can somebody control, please?--Broletto (talk) 18:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)