Talk:Frances Cress Welsing
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[edit] "Keys to the Colors"
I read this book a number of years ago. I came away with the distinct impression that the author has a huge chip on her shoulder. There are many controversial claims she made in this book (which is a collection of her essays over a period of about 15 years). One of them is that the USA and then USSR have nuclear weapons in order to one day use them on all the non-white people of the world. The claim each nation made to having them aimed at one another and its territories was described by Welsing as the "big white lie". She also said that AIDS is a godsend for whites since it is sure to wipe out most of their "genetic rivals"--the rest of the non-white globe. All the whites collectively have to do is nothing, she contends. I wonder how many people take her seriously. Since she's a psychiatrist, I'd recommend the old adage, "Physician, heal thyself". The article mentioned her claim that whites were descended from mutant albino black Africans who were gradually "deported" from the continent because these "albinos" were "correctly" recognized as being dangerous. This claim of hers could easily give justification to white supremacists who would say that if this were true, then the blacks deserve the treatment they've historically received at the hands of whites. It's very difficult to separate the writer from her work in this book. So much of her character is revealed. It's also very difficult to take anything she says seriously.Jlujan69 01:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
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The subject covered by this author is very contraversial. Therefore insults ,vandalism and other aggressions must be expected and prepared for.
That said I have yet to see an objective anaylsis of Dr.Welsing's work.
I'm listing five "facts" which until i read Dr.Welsing's book the Isis Papers
I was as ignorant and confused as most of the world general population appear to be.
1.Concept of race is a false social poltical concept/belief.
True or False
2.According current scientfic knowledge humans are manmals whose phenotype is the visble expression of thier individual as well as collective genotype.
True or False
3.White Skin as with hair and iris is due to lack of melinin and inability to produce melinin.
True or False
4.Albinsim is the total or partial inability to produce melinin pigment.
True or False
5.The genetic traits for albinism are recessive(or more accurately "Subordinate", as the traits for pigmentation are "Dominant".
True or False
Let's have a rational scientific dialog about this.
As sufficent Time has pasted without reasonable response
I will presue My scientific investigation with assumed oppostion.
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Okay but I have taken out the bit where it said she believes these things because she is a psychiatrist. Most psychiatrists don't believe these things therfor her belief is not caused by the fact that she is a psychiatrist. Allyourballsbelongus 03:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Subjects For Dialog
Status - due to her anaylsis of seqmond freud ,karl marx and albert entsien and the scope and importantance of her work she has achieved by merit equal status among history's greatest thinkers - for herself and all black women.
However her anaylsis reveals new problems to be solved
1.white vs albinic she may not be the first;j.a.rogers may have that distinction,but she is the first and so far only one black-melinated or white-albinic to decontruct and anayslize what whiteness and therefore blackness is scientifically. prior to her anaylsis ,it was unexplained and therefore taken for granted that whites had something that we blacks did not have.
we now know that all forms of whiteness are degrees of albinism which is a genetically resscesive trait. and albinism is the lack of and nonablity to produce the pigment melinin and the trait for melinin pigmentation is genetically dominant.
therefore it is more accurate to refer to white people as albinic people and black people as melininated people. the words - albinic and melininated do not yet exist offically.
2.Uglyness having coverted the isis papers to a computer file(word and htm) during the course of my study i did a search for the word - ugly of the total document/file - zero mention.
the point is through her many deconstructions of the symbolic behavior of albinics such as suntaning,wearing black etc the inevitable conclusion is that albinics themselves find there appearance unattractive,undesible in other words ugly. the importance of this fact in how they relate and are related to seems to me to be of primary importance.
it is completely consistent with my personal experience as a african american male i myself would have long ago had sex with and gone along with most of albinic-white european-asian people and policy if not for the overiding fact of how painfully disgusting not just the sight of them but the aweful smell as well.
there are always exceptions but those expecetion prove the rule and when you add the moral uglniess of thier lies theft and murder, my resistence and rejection of albinic-white european-asian people and thier culture is and involutry reaction.
i've often heard mention by other black-melinated people of how albinic-whites smell like a dog after rain or some such. but my experience has been that there are two types of smells distinctive albinism - one epidermal the other gastrointestinal and whats more partically among asian albinics it is used offensively to harass and to repluse undesired affection.
the sight of some is so extreme as to precieve it to be comprehensable as to how they as a people can commit the atriocitie they do and how they can live content amid so much suuffering.
3.telepathy what if it was real and did exist but people lied about it.
5.black submission most all the black-melinated people i know submitt volutarilay partial or compeletely albinic people the most common being - belief : accepting albinic religions uncritically and standards of beuaty - accepting that pale/albinic skin and straight hair are beautiful and desirable than black. which in turn supports the cosmetic supplies industry owned and controlled by albinics churches and the required eurocentric dress code the resulting rejection and hostilty toward the darkest-most melinined black people expressed through the infamous n-word,etc —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.3.112.59 (talk) 23:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC).
- What I've learned from this fellow is that black bigots think the same thoughts about white people as white bigots think about black people. It's very funny, actually.--Zrazys 19:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- In addition, Dr. Welsey comes accross more as a pop psychologist from the Freudian side, than someone with any real insight. She's a true reactionary to the "white man." A freudian/Einsteinian/Marxist holdover from the 1960's. The melinated fellow that started this seems to be cut from the same cloth. Bring on the pop-psychologists! --Zrazys 02:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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- Agreed, except that it's not funny at all. Unlike "White Supremacy" which is generally frowned upon by most Americans, those who preach "Counter Racism Code..." espouse a powerful entitlement to the practice of "Counter-Racism", citing historical atrocities commited by whites as a reason. The entire system, perpetuated by people like Welsing, Fuller etc, is a set of beliefs that demonizes "white people" as a race, separating "Whites" from "Non-Whites" under the guise of countering this invention of white people; "Racism". However bigoted and over-simplified, it exemplifies a very popular view among African Americans, given the enormity of disenfranchisement in the community. This movement gives voice to the outrage and collective trauma of African Americans, exploiting the age-old "payback" mentality that has existed among some Blacks since times of Slavery. This "system" that Welsing teaches is nothing short of Black Supremacy, and though they insist that they cannot be "racist" because they lack the economic power with which to do so, it most definitely meets the definition of Racism. EyePhoenix (talk) 02:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] HAHAHAHAHA
This is hilarious! What drugs was this person smoking? Or was Welsing just born with mental leprosy. HAHAHAHAHA! Woooooooooooooooooow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.107.91.99 (talk) 19:33, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
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