Talk:Ford Modular engine

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How do we change the valve covers in these things?


Hahah... You're funny. But in seriosuness, does anybody have any idea what separates the Triton from the MOD? Is it the application (truck vs. car)? I have been making some little additions to both pages trying to keep them separate, based on what I have read...This could be a little better if we have more info on why these are separately named. One problem I have had is with Ford of Australia. They use 5.4 MOD V8s in their cars. Are these MOD or Triton MOD? Same point with the 2000 Cobra R. 70.26.11.45 02:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Clarification

Triton is just Ford's marketing term for modular V8s used in truck applications. As for Ford Australia, the way I understand it is that the 5.4 liter Modular V8 used in the Falcon are very similar to the 2000 Cobra R's engine, putting out the same power and torque. I've read that the blocks are made in North America but that heads are locally produced in Australia but I'm not sure if that is the case or not. So to break it down, if it's in a truck, it's a Triton (which is a modular engine) but if a modular engine is in a car, it's refered to as a modular engine.

  • I know. I'm logged in now. I was the one who added the Australian info from a ford press release. IOt is a source of confusion. I think the Tritons come from Windsor (predominantly), and the car engines, except the Aussies come from Romeo. The fact that Tritons are available at both or that trucks can use Romeo engines complicates matters. So better not go there just yet. Have a look on a mustang/modular "modular motors explained" or something site for clarification between Romeo and Windsor MODs. There are honestly enough differences (internal materials, wrist pins, cross bolts, cranks, cam bridges, timing covers etc. etc.) even among "Tritons" of the same year from these two plants to give one a headache. So we can more or less assume TRITON is a marketing name for customer's benefit. Evenutally I would like to discuss it on this page, once it is unravelled. -C CJ DUB 21:41, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Removed the remarks on the origin of the Barra name from the Ford of Australia section. Low relevance to the Ford Modular Engine page. CJ DUB 13:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cammer Dominance

Cammer was DOMINANT in 2005. The cars using the Cammer won the manufacturer title, and had a podium finish in almost every race of the 2005 season (8 of 10 races?). That counts as dominance in any race mandate, short of winning every race, which nobody has done. The iditoic new rules they brought in resulted in making the M3 too competitive, rather than giving the mustang parity, due to the restrictors and the ridiculously low weight they now allow for the M3. What a joke. Now you see why the GTO is not competitive. They are heavily weighted and restricted. CJ DUB 15:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1994 4.6L Ford Lincoln TownCar

Anyone have any idea on the HP of the 1994 4.6L DOHC ford engine in a Lincoln TownCar? Answer: 160 hp (112 kW) to 210 hp (157kw)depense on the series: Executive, Cartier, signature

[edit] 2003-2004 Cobra is not an aluminum block, it's cast iron.

Hey, I'm new to this whole wikipedia thing, I just created the account actually, but I noticed that the article was wrong in stating that the 2003-04 Mustang Cobra (aka Terminator) uses the aluminum DOHC. They actually put a cast iron in to handle the extra power that was added from the supercharger. Someone who is more familiar with the system can change that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ajerman (talk • contribs) 15:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

  • You're correct; fixed. Good catch. TheBalance 15:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Firing order

It would be nice if we had this data for all the Ford engines, since it is an integral part of how they dvelop power, TQ, and their characteristic Ford sound. GMs for example fire quite a bit different. As far as I know 4.6 modular, (all of them) are 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8. 192.197.71.189 18:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

-CJ

[edit] Some additions...

The 2-valve 4.6 iron block was also used in the F-Series from 1997-?? I would assume 2004 when they switched the 5.4 to the 3-valve. I'm unsure as to whether they still offer it.

Sorry, I don't have time to do any research right now.

-Kris --65.208.138.225 21:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


That engine is called the "Triton" It has its own page for pickup truck apps. They still offer it as the 4.6L 2v option for trucks. I checked the ford website and its the old 4.6L 2v iron block (Al heads). The only other 4.6 in the line-up right now is the aluminum 3v and they are NOT using that for anything but Explorers and Mustangs. 16:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Customers

Right now, after a brief glance at the article, it looks like the example cars are all Ford Co products. What about customer cars, such as the Panoz Roadster and the Qvale Mangusta. I know they're not high volume vehicles, but some mention of the Ford engines in non-Ford products should be made. Gentgeen 23:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

So far only the Koenigsegg has been mentioned. Why don't you make the additions? TheBalance 21:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restarting discussion to merge articles

Well I have read both articles and found that most of the data is duplicated and does not need to occupy 2 different articles. I'm starting a discussion as per Wikipedia code of editing and I want to know what everyone thinks before anything else is done. Please post your comments weather to keep separate (and show good reasoning) or merge together relevant information. Yours 13:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I vote for merging the articles. Although there is not much to "merge", since virtually all of the information covered on the Triton article has already been covered here.

TheBalance 20:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I think merging these articles together are a bad choice, while a lot of car or truck savvy people will know where to look for this information, Wikipedia has always been about finding information easily and a LOT faster. So a good portion of people trying to find this kind of information won't be as lucky if we merge the two articles together. I say keep them separated...

BeaverDono 02:39, 15th of November 2007

That's why we have redirect pages. If the articles are merged, the Ford Triton engine page will be redirected to the Ford Modular engine page. TheBalance 18:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I expanded and revamped the 5.4 L section of the Modular page today. The Ford Modular engine page covers basically everything the Ford Triton page does now. In fact, the Modular page covers the same information with superior detail and accuracy for the most part. TheBalance 19:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I would say go ahead and merge. --Daniel J. Leivick 00:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Articles merged. TheBalance 16:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Intake Manifold Defect

the article states they started using th aluminum crossover in 2002, when they became standard halfway through all the 2001 year models. Most all Romeo based new edges have the aluminum cross-over on the intake manifold. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MustangAficionado (talk • contribs) 00:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)