Talk:Ford Focus (North America)

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Surely this can be merged with the '(international)' page? Chris 21:56, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

No. The European and North American cars are both called the Ford Focus, but they are completely different cars. Rubbrchikin 21:38, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Completely different cars? The first generation ones look identical to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.198.82 (talk) 21:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Its still the first generation. Just the second facelift.

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[edit] I think we need to start over

Both the Ford Focus and this article need a re-launch. How about Ford offer a decent US version, and this article covers it? ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.91.137.171 (talk) 22:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I see nothing too much wrong with either. The article could use some expansion for the first-gen section, but otherwise it seems fine, and the new second-gen Focus looks awesome. 71.139.161.147 02:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I have changed the main picture on the header to the current Focus, the 2008 MY that has hit the ground and is in showrooms. Why does it keep getting changed back to the old picture? -- -- Wraithfive (talk) 22:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The current consensus is that, in general, the main picture is the highest quality picture. --Sable232 (talk) 23:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
So if I get a better version of the new Focus from my dealership, it would be ok? -- Wraithfive (talk) 01:59, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
2008MY Focus is way ugly, it will scare off visitors of this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikus (talk • contribs) 00:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalisim

Looks like we have somewhat rampant vandalisim by IP 71.183.253.153 on the issue of a Second Gen Hatchback, as well as a supposed "Spongebob Edition". Anything anyone can do about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wraithfive (talk • contribs) 22:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Generations

I'm curious, what defines a "generation" of a particular car model? I think there's sufficient differences between the 2000-2004 and 2005-2007 to warrant them being in a separate generation. Going from 2004 to 2005, we have the following changes:

Zetec was dropped completely. Radically different exterior design (the doors and wheels are the only design elements that have not changed). Radically different interior design (curves replaced with more rigid boxy look). SVT was dropped. Length changed. Width changed. Height changed. Wheelbase changed.

If "generation" classifications are not set in stone by some authority (like Ford), then I suggest the following changes: 2000-2004 = 1st Generation... 2005-2007 = 2nd Generation... 2008 = 3rd Generation.

If they are set in stone, well, then... ignore this post. :\ 68.79.97.96 (talk) 23:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Changes were too minor to be considered a new generation. Modified front and rear ends, a new dash, and a discontinued model aren't enough. IFCAR (talk) 01:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
You are also forgetting the dropping of the Zetec, which is a major change that isn't related to design. I'm curious, what major types of changes warranted the 2008 to fall under a new generation that the 2005 didn't have (compared to 2004)? 68.79.97.96 (talk) 22:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
A complete exterior and interior redesign, rather than detail and equipment changes. IFCAR (talk) 23:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image?

Why is the first image not of the current generation? If people come here to look for information on the current Focus, they'll see an older car. I noticed this as well with the 2008 Taurus' page, where a 2006 is displayed at the top.

This is somewhat misleading for some users, and would be to the article's benefit to have this rectified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.212.208.175 (talk) 03:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

The head infobox illustrates the entire history of the car. Only the generation infoboxes need a specific model of car, and the head image should be the article's best from any generation. IFCAR (talk) 03:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Completely different cars?

I notice somebody here claimed that the Focus (International) and Focus (North America) are completely different cars. This certainly doesn't sound correct to me.