Talk:Ford Fiesta
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Can we somehow link this to the Ford Festiva, which replaced the Fiesta in the USA? (there's a link on the Festiva page to here). Also a picture of the US version Fiesta would be nice (it's a little different to the European version).
I object to the term "super-mini" in the introduction. The Fiesta is not a particularly small hatchback, it is at least two classes above the smallest "small cars". The Peugeot 106 - Peugeot 207, Fiat Seicento - Fiat Cinquecento and Volkswagen Lupo - Volkswagen Polo are all fairly smaller. It's same class as the Volkswagen Golf, Peugout 307 and Fiat Punto (which the latest Fiesta design rips off). Similarly there were always smaller class cars in the Fiesta's past too - Fiat 127, Peugout 10x, Rover Metro, others.
Zoney 22:34, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
- I've put mid-class rather than super-mini - it is perhaps the same class as the 207 and Polo rather than 307 and Golf. Zoney 22:42, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
- There was a time, I remember, when "super-mini" didn't mean "smaller than mini" but rather "bigger than mini". I remember this sense of it being used in Car magazine in the 80s. —Morven 19:38, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)
yo creo que el Ford Fiesta es un auto muy superior a un Peugeot 207 y a un VW Lupo, no solo por su tamaño sino por su comodidad y confort, y mas que nada porque el 1.6 tiene un motor impresionante que demuestra que el Fiesta es como minimo un auto mediano.
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- I agree with Zoney - the Fiesta is (on the European market, anyway) in the same class as comparable "one-class-above-smallest" cars from other makers, such as the Peugeot 206, Citroen C3, Toyota Yaris, Nissan Micra, VW Lupo. It's definitely smaller than cars "two-classes-above-smallest", such as the Peugeot 307, Ford Focus, VW Golf. This size classification fits it nicely into the description given in supermini - enough space to seat four adults and one child. — QuantumEleven | (talk) 08:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Mark 7 section
Was this lifted from a press release? --KJBracey 10:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I think Ford UK Officially count what is listed here as a Mark 6 Fiesta as a Mark 5, they dont count facelifts as model number changes. --thelight1 23:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
No, this is quite obviously not a press release, and I agree with "thelight" in the respect that the Fiesta 06 version is not a completely new model, which is why I labelled it as a "facelift" not a complete restyling. Clearly somebody has felt it necessary to change it to Mark VII. --Chriskirby 12:36, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mark 7
see Auto Express 8 MArch 2006
the 2005 facelift is not a Mk 7 - there are no mechanical differences between the pre-facelift and the facelift versions. within owners' clubs the facelift is often referred to as a Mk 6.5 for this reason. the Mk 5 did have some mechanical differences to the Mk 4, which justifies it as a new generation, but the only alterations to the 6.5 are cosmetic. new lights doesn't make a new car. aisuru (talk) 17:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] B2xx
The information in the Mark 7 section is wrong, the 2000 Fiesta platform was called B2xx (226=Fusion, 256/7=Fiesta)
B2xx [aka B2e] is not incorrect, but is shorthand for the B232 & B299 development codes for the 2008 Fusion and Fiesta model replacements however the B2xx nomenclature was been used for previous Mk6 vehicles in development.
[edit] Linkspam
It appears certain users are deciding to delete what are generally considered useful links, a warning has already been posted regarding this , and further deletions will be reported. Many of these links provide people with contact to like minded enthusiasts and access to information and advice regarding this model of car. DO NOT DELETE with out discussing.XR2TT
I've just removed a bunch of external links that seem to be there purely to promote the site in question. I don't see how photos of some random person's smashed up Fiesta add anything to the article, and there are countless inactive "Owner's Clubs" sites which I have cleansed.
Most links I removed added nothing the article didn't already cover and some were just downright self-promotion. --Happynoodleboy 14:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately one of the links you removed "Fiesta club of Great Britain" happens to be the biggest and most active club of its kind in the UK, i have reinstated the link but moderated it taking into account your comments above.A number of people i have spoken to recently have found the club via Wikipedia and have found it helpful. * I see someone has been deleting useful owners club links!, please read Adrians bit below regarding fiestaturbo.com , it should be noted that Fiesta Club of Great Britain recently put on a show with over 2000 cars attending and included representatives from ALL the UK (and Holland and Germany ) major Fiesta based clubs , providing a unique oppotunity to discuss the car, i deliberatly asked a large cross section of people about Wikipedia and many of them said they found the link useful. please do not remove it again, i am happy to modify it if you discuss it with me. Any further removals will result in a complaint being made. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by XR2TT (talk • contribs) 25 April 2006.
I have just re-added fiestaturbo.com and UK Fiesta network. Both of these are highly active owners clubs with thousands of members, and participate at every major show of the season. In future please visit the site and assess it's merits as a useful information resource before removing it. fiestaturbo.com in particular contains a whole host of technical articles which have been assembled in the five years plus the site has existed, it consistantly ranks highly and as a result "downright self-promotion" is unrequired. If anyone objects to the re-adding plese feel free to contact me adrian at fiestaturbo.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.159.99.60 (talk • contribs) 10 May 2006.
- Neither of the said links are required to make this article great. Wikipedia needs more content, not external links. External links should be added sparingly to an article. It appears to me that both of the commments above come from editors who have vested interests in the sites these external links point to, any no one else here has argued on their behalf. Please see WP:SPAM and WP:EL. I'm removing both the links for now - let's get some other opinions here on it before re-adding it. --AbsolutDan (talk) 13:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- I'm glad that other editors have revisited the external links on this article before, but there are many that violate the external link guidelines WP:EL. In particular, the websites which consist mainly of forums/classifieds/etc. are especially problematic (see Links to be avioded #10: Links to social networking sites (such as MySpace), discussion forums or USENET.) There are good reasons not to link these sites. #1 is the problem of reliable source (WP:RS) since the information isn't vetted for accuracy. They are also usually made up of origianl research (another problem WP:OR). #2 is the problem of "Wikipedia is not a directory of links" WP:NOT. The article has basically become a list of clubs (another thing Wikipedia is not.) One way around this is to find reputable articles (apparently available on some of these sites according to the comments above) and using them as references in the text (i.e. do not use forum discussions as references - they in no way pass WP:RS or WP:OR.) #3 "Conflict of interest" it is clear based on the above comments that some of the links have been added by owners of the websites. This is strongly discouraged (WP:COI). It should be neutral editors who decide if this content is worth linking. #4 Links should be symetrically related to the article. Many of the forums linked are not specifically about the Fiesta and on this alone they should be removed. (talk) is right: in most instances, external links benefit the linked website than the article. I encourage knowledgeable editors to begin the process of cleaning up of links. Nposs 20:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mark II "Legend"
The mark 2 Ford Fiesta is not what I would a legend car, however, it was a major advance in body styles.
Reply on my talk page.
--Joshuarooney2006 14:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tuning
I tuned my Fiesta by doing an engine swap with an old rover v8. I also replaced the drive gear with 4x4 wheeldrive from a lancer evo. It flys man... Zesty Prospect 19:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mark IV
The mark iv shown is actually a Mazda. Not a Fiesta. Benbristol 13:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- No it is a Fiesta, it was just identical in design to the Mazda 121 (hence the 'also called' part). Janipewter 00:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- When the guy wrote that, the pic that was shown in the article WAS that of a Mazda. It was changed later. :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.136.247.101 (talk) 15:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Insertformulahere
I see the TT MK turbo edition is mentioned but not the limited edition German 1.4i built in Cologne
Did the Fiat Uno use the same CTX box as the Fiesta? Thats a great help as our one needs a new one and Uno's are easier to source than CTX's. It should also be mentioned that although the CTX variants were "low" designation, they had "high" interior's fitted with the rev counter being replaced by a analogue clock.
172.141.127.135 06:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
