Talk:FOREST

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[edit] Oppose deletion

Looking at Google, [1] this group seems to get a fair bit of media attention. I think it's important that interested members of the public should be able to check its Astroturf status. That's clear from the article but could be bolstered a bit, looking at the Google results.JQ 09:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough... wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of having overly stringent notability standards. :) Let's collate and work in some solid secondary sources, in that case. MastCell ^Talk 18:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] astroturf

Since "astroturf" is a derogatory term, it would be nice if we could quote a reliable source using specifically that word rather than applying it ourselves. Alternately, if reliable secondary sources use some other term, we could use whatever term they do use. --Delirium (talk) 06:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, it is like adding "-gate" to any scandal, it also makes clear that Forest is not an independent Smoker's consumer pressure group, but more a front group representing the Tobacco Industry more than the health of Smokers and those around them. 86.140.121.253 (talk) 21:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Age of Lord Harris

Harris' age (81) at time of death appeared here, juxtaposed with the fact of his long-term pipe smoking. This is a clear attempt at an argument by stealth against the fact of smoking's dangers. Editorially, it is irrelevant; as an argument on smoking it is fallacious. Either way, it has no business here. Cmsg 18:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)