Talk:FNG syndrome
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Hey, I'm just getting this article off the ground. I know its rough, and most of what was written was based off memory, so please correct, edit, or change anything. I don't know if FNG syndrome qualifies for a psychology stub as well, so I didn't put it in. I'll let someone else deicde that. --TDT
Rewrote and expanded the article to say it from pending deletion. Please feel free to expand on it.Akitora (talk) 08:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
no mention is made of their also being called 'cherries', or of the acronym FUNGUS (Fuck yoU, New Guy, yoU Suck.)actually, FUNGUS may be more recent than the nam, but what the hell do i know? i was just a REMF.Toyokuni3 (talk) 06:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I know - couldn't find a good citable source for alternate names for FNG's - even FUNGUS would be appropriate for insertion if it could be shown that similar treatment of new troops from a group dynamic POV has been exhibited in other conflicts. Do you have a source that could be used? Akitora (talk) 10:54, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
i'll see what i can find. but, think about this: in the movie ' platoon',while they're on their first patrol, the tom berringer character refers to the new guys as 'cherries'.this could be snuck in the back door under 'in popular culture'.Toyokuni3 (talk) 15:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
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Lets hook in and improve it!Akitora (talk) 11:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- The Title is very odd becuase it uses the word "syndrome". Also the total focus on the vietnam conflict makes this article extremly narrow and should reflect more to newerconflicts and civilian use. БοņёŠɓɤĭĠ₳₯є 16:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that the title needs changing - FNG's would be more appropriate without the syndrome. However the focus on Vietnam is accurate - very little literature or sources to support it's common usage outside of this scope. It's like the term Jerry for the Germans in WWII - wasn't really used before or after that one war. If people can find good sources on post vietnam usage, put them in! Akitora (talk) 09:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
- i agree in one sense but disagree in another. the word syndrome is much overused in modern parlance. on the other hand, if it represents,in any given case, the actual definition, i.e., a constellation of symptoms that tend to occur together, then its use in that case is appropriate. see syndrome or down syndrome. it's a meaningful term. does fng meet the definition? Toyokuni3 (talk) 06:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- That's what it comes down to really isn't it. Is it a syndrome. Is it a phenomenon? Certainly none of the source material I read referred to it as a syndrome. Closest it came to that was along the lines of "FNG's as part of the group dynamic of units in Vietnam." Certainly there seems to be enough research to warrant papers on the topic, so the FNG effect, for want of a better term, seems to be quantifiable and verifiable as far as professionals studying it goes. So new section :) Akitora (talk) 10:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
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Is what is described in the article a syndrome? Phenomenon? Something else entirely? Share your thoughts! Tell your friends and get them to share their thoughts! Akitora (talk) 10:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
