Talk:Flogging Molly

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[edit] Removed links to individual band members

At first I made wiki links for the individual band members but they redirect here anyway so I've removed them. For future reference (god forbid they break up or something, or maybe in case they do some additional non-FM work) here's a list of the band members' articles:

Matt Hensley leaves the band, RIP you will be sorely missed. 12/10/06

Got references? I checked their website, and I see nothing about Matt leaving. 58.105.64.116 11:37, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I never saw anything about that either. I'll look. +1baka 09:29, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

It was sent in an email to newsletter subscribers. Fortunately, he has rejoined the band per a myspace group announcement. TYLERofDOOM 02:00, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

I have uploaded the following "free-use as long as the photographer is credited" photos (all by Shawn Bishop, as you can see if you click on them).

I've picked one for the article, but I'm not totally sure myself so feel free to talk about it if you prefer a different one of these pictures or any other picture.

The artists of the band Flogging Molly. From left to right: Dennis Casey, Matt Hensley, Bob Schmidt, Dave King, George Schwindt, Bridget Regan, Nathen Maxwell. Photography by Shawn Bishop.
The artists of the band Flogging Molly. From left to right: Dennis Casey, Matt Hensley, Bob Schmidt, Dave King, George Schwindt, Bridget Regan, Nathen Maxwell. Photography by Shawn Bishop.
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The artists of the band Flogging Molly. From left to right: George Schwindt, Dennis Casey, Bob Schmidt, Nathen Maxwell, Dave King, Matt Hensley, Bridget Regan. Photography by Shawn Bishop.
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The artists of the band Flogging Molly.From left to right, back first: Dennis Casey, Nathen Maxwell, George Schwindt, Bridget Regan, Matt Hensley, Bob Schmidt, Dave King. Photography by Shawn Bishop.

--Mistress Selina Kyle 06:25, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page reordered

I rearranged the order of the page a bit, mainly in order to bring the table of contents box back up to the top. Hope I didn't step on anyone's toes with this edit! Akradecki 06:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I approve of your edit! Simoes 10:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Driving Forces"

Not to detract from the talents of Dave and Bridget, Nathan's energetic bass playing and the group's overall cohesiveness in live shows are also important contributing factors to the band's success.

[edit] "Black Friday Rule"

Does anyone know which Black Friday the band is referring to in "Black Friday Rule"? Thanks, just curious. --Brasswatchman 23:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I've thought about that too, and just a guess, seeing as how they are irish, and the
irish are mainly roman catholic, i think it refers to the friday before Easter known as black friday or good friday. Though im not sure how the lyrics would go along with this religious day, but im also not positive what the black friday RULE is. Maybe you would want to look into what this rule thing is about black friday. P.S. can anyone help me get this text out of this box (im new to this wiki stuff) (Unsigned)

Fixed your comment. Also, in Whiskey on a Sunday, Dave stated that the song itself was about leaving home; taking the plunge into the unknown. If you see the article on Black Friday, there are numerous events with that name. Almost certainly he's referring to Friday the Thirteenth, which is a day traditionally supposed to bring bad luck. I'm not exactly sure why he references this in the song, though. 58.109.10.16 09:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

just here to talk. I'm curious too. While it is true a Black friday is a friday the 13th of a month, lots of things happen then. I seem to remember something about the civil war in ireland happening on a black friday. please help le look into this, try to find content on Ireland and items worth mention on the music. Post info on black friday to th Black Friday Rule song page.+1baka 09:27, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The establishment of the Irish Free State fell on a Monday (Dec 6, 1921); Wikipedia does not give an exact date for the passing of the Government_of_Ireland_Act_1920. The dates listed for the Civil War are Tuesday (begin) and Wednesday (end). However, Amnesty for all war crimes in this war was November 8, 1924, which was a Friday. However, based on the wording of the song ("As thousands they grieve, as the Black Friday rule."), this seems to point not to a date, but a group of people (the British parliament, perhaps?) EtoileLion (talk) 15:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

It's about religion as pointed out above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.64.44 (talk) 20:46, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] www.26f.com ..?

Why does this domain refer to Flogging Molly.com? Are they publishing a new album or such (?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.220.74.37 (talk) 12:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC).


possibly the 26 counties in the Republic Of Ireland??? f could be for flogging or possibly freesate????


[edit] Worst trivia ever

"The song "Tobacco Island" makes reference to Oliver Cromwell and his taking over of parts of Ireland."

astonishingly pointless.

the first line says it was 1659, but cromwell died in 1658 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.98.7 (talk) 21:53, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Dave King said the song was about Cromwell's campaign against the Irish at Shamrockfest in Washington, D.C. in 2007. While the year is wrong, I don't think he's attempting to offer a history lesson with the song. On a broader point, why is it pointless to have what different songs are about? Wiki publius (talk) 05:48, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPBiography?

I'm just thinking that this article, which is about a musical group, does not belong in the WPBiography. Anyone else? --Evb-wiki 18:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use images

All but one of these *did* have FU tags. I cleared them up. Valid use. Cornea 15:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Flogging molly within a mile of home cd cover.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Flogging molly whiskey on a sunday.jpg

Image:Flogging molly whiskey on a sunday.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Flogging molly swagger cd cover.jpg

Image:Flogging molly swagger cd cover.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Matt Hensley leaves, then returns

Matt Hensley took a hiatus from the band after the touring season ended in Fall 06. His intention was to start a business close to home, Carlsbad CA, so he could be closer to his family. Although this constituted leaving the band, Matt never considered this to be "Quitting". He didn't burn that bridge. He spent the better part of 07 finding an existing Restaurant / Bar and remodeling it to match his tastes. The decor is probably best described as Retro Skater/Punk. After getting the Pub up and running and finding the right manager, he rejoined the band for the last three venues on the 07 tour and left with them to Blackwater IR, to record the new album. He will be touring with them when the next season starts in 08.

Please add this information to the main page.

If you would like to build a Matt Hensley page, let me know. We are in constant contact. He is a personal friend and the owner of Innes Clothing for which I am the VP of Sales and Marketing. Gbrumage 01:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)