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I've added a few records by Louis Paulhan to the table, but it now occurs to me that this page could be problematic because the FAI no longer keeps a single record for altitude in aeroplanes, but a number of separate records, depending on payload carried - more than 50 separate records in all. Then you need to consider the type and sub-classs of aeroplane - dozens more to multiply the 50+ by. Then powerplant...... Quite honestly, I don't think this page can work as it is without a much tighter defintion, and even then.... Emeraude 18:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• • Well...maybe the table should be broken up. Have records for Prop planes in one table, then records for Jets in another then for rocket-powered planes, balloons, and maybe space vehicles in others. I don't think it would be necessary to take into account plane type, powerhouse, etc. other than listing the record holder's model and a link to the planes' pages if they exist, because in the general sense of the article a prop plane is a prop plane. KoreFelpz 02:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Inclusion of rocket planes 2 Table needs some fixing 3 Merger soon. 4 Bad precision 5 Fedotov

[edit] Inclusion of rocket planes

I don't think it's justified to include the X-15 and SpaceShipOne records, because they are more sub-orbital rockets than airplanes. Otherwise the Appollo flights should be included. --80.139.102.211 17:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table needs some fixing

Hey, if someone has the time to fix this page's table, please do. On my Mario Pezzi page (under Record Flight) I have the names and altitudes of the highest propeller planes in the 19-teens. (years) Also its confusing as all the heights are in different measurements. I dont have the time to convert or I would --Joooeeeelllll 21:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger soon.

I removed the merger tag because I will soon perform the merger. I will post again when I complete the task.Kville105125 17:37, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I merged in Manned balloon altitude records. Another merge candidate, List of altitude records reached by different aircraft types (marked since Dec '06) remains to be done. Hult041956 (talk) 01:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

And today I merged in List of altitude records reached by different aircraft types. We now have one article where once there were three. The result is very rough. However, interested contributors should be able to improve one article better than three. Hult041956 (talk) 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bad precision

I just made a few edits to this page. I replaced the uses of thinsp with nbsp, because nbsp is the recommendation of WP:MOSNUM and thinsp doesn't show up properly in IE 6. I also used {{convert}} extensively to provide good unit conversions. I noticed something odd. It appears that throughout the article, but especially in the "All balloons" section, someone took a bunch of highly imprecise measurements in feet (for example, 72,000 ft), and converted them to kilometers with a precision of three decimal places. This is misleading and needs to be fixed, but first we need the original sources. Does anyone know where this information came from? TomTheHand (talk) 16:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fedotov

> The highest altitude obtained by a manned air-breathing jet propelled aircraft following an uncontrolled ballistic trajectory is 37,650 m (123,524 ft) set by Alexandr Fedotov, in a Mikoyan Gurevitch E-266M (MiG-25M), on 31 August 1977. <

This looks like bogus. FAI regulations dertermine maximum altitude as the altitude where the air plane's capability to climb further falls below 0.5 meters/second, therefore you cannot set a record by a "jump arc" started from a high-speed run, you have to honestly climb there. 82.131.210.162 (talk) 10:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)