Talk:Flat racing

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I recommend this article be merged into Horse racing it is primarily duplicative of what is already in the larger article. Though there is an argument to be made for breaking out steeplechasing and other more unorthodox forms from the main article, the term "horse racing" and the article of the same name cover the topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Montanabw (talkcontribs) 17:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

That could be a rather US-centric approach. (What would americans say if we merged "football" and "soccer"?) If there is excessive similarity between the 2 articles then that is an argument for judicious editing. PatGallacher 01:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Also just looking at the 2 articles again, they are nothing like each other. PatGallacher 01:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

That's because this one is of terrible quality. The larger article incorporates almost everything here somewhere within it and actualy has a more worldwide perspective. "Flat racing" is "generic" horse racing and exists worldwide. Maybe judicious editing would help, but explain how "flat racing" is somehow US-Centric as opposed to "horse racing." The soccer versus football analogy isn't working for me because as far as I know "flat racing" isn't really a common term in either the UK or the USA, it is merely a technical term that differentiates ordinary races from, say, steeplechases. But, this isn't exactly on my A list of projects, so there is time and room to discuss this further. But it seems that there is a lot of room for cleanup. Montanabw(talk) 02:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree that this article is poor, but if you look at What links here you'll see that there are hundreds of pages linking to "Flat racing". I don't know about the USA but the term is very common in the UK and Ireland. -- Zafonic 20:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I would endorse that. Flat racing, or racing "on the flat", are terms in everyday use in Great Britain, where flat racing and steeplechasing are regarded as of roughly equal importance. I think many British people would be genuinely surprised to hear it described as "ordinary" horse racing. PatGallacher 23:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Considering the issues here, I suggest that the best approach is to make this a relatively short article explaining that flat racing is the main form of horse racing in most parts of the world, but this is not the case everywhere, and then refer people to the main article on horse racing or the articles on individual countries. PatGallacher 23:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I like that solution and Looks like some work was done in horse racing. As far as double redirects, that is not a huge problem, but I think we do need a good disambiguation link at the very least. Montanabw(talk) 03:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)